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Should Windrush Square be renamed Ritzy Square?

Personally though I don't mind the branding. I wonder what the residents made of the Bovril ad when that was first painted on...
The'd probably be too distracted by the lovely gardens that used to be there to notice.

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http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/theatre.html
 
Look at all the space thats fenced off in those gardens. Why, you can only walk on the paths! Barely any seating either.
 
Look at all the space thats fenced off in those gardens. Why, you can only walk on the paths! Barely any seating either.
Perhaps you prefer the moderne sea of concrete, but I rather like old fashioned things like trees, grass, plants and flowers.

Even this comparatively bleak 1960s view reminds me of how much grass (and trees) have been lost.

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Stick some benches around this Victorian view and we'd be sorted:
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I prefer public space that can be used for things, rather than fenced off and looked at.
 
I prefer public space that can be used for things, rather than fenced off and looked at.
So do you prefer the current concrete-tastic, grass-untroubled vista of Tate Gardens to the 1960s view?

Apart from being an extension to the Ritzy's private business, could you remind me what the square's being used for?
 
So do you prefer the current concrete-tastic, grass-untroubled vista of Tate Gardens to the 1960s view?

The current space is paved with Quite Nice Stone, and there's grass troubling the vista. There are lots of trees in the south side of the space.

The 1960's view has some inaccessible grass, some flowers, and passage across the square is blocked by the raised walls. Rushcroft road cuts it in half.

Apart from being an extension to the Ritzy's private business, could you remind me what the square's being used for?

I have seen: Old boys sitting in the public seats with their guinness. Kids playing. People riding bikes and skateboards. People sitting on the grass in the sun. Various information/market/council etc. gazebos. I'm sure that Brixton Splash will make excellent use of the space this year. It's a vast improvement.
 
Even if the BCA has only a small cafe, there is nothing to stop them appropriating a part of the square, a la Ritzy.

Just spotted the pix of the BCA building on their website. Looks good.
 
Incidentally, what's going on with the BCA? This may have been covered elsewhere on U75 but there seems to be a lack of activity at the moment. Funds dried up? Unexpected structural problems with the building?

Maybe they've read this thread and are having second thoughts about their plans for an outside seating area?

:D
 
Well their funding is secure, so the relative quiet on site is probably due to the preliminaries going on inside. Maybe they found asbestos. Maybe they found some structural instability. Hard to know, unless you see a builder and press them for info.
 
That sort of survey would have been done prior to lottery funders (& Boris House et al) agreeing it wouldn't it? Can't believe they'd have been offered that amount without a Schedule D or whatever it's called, as well as a surveyors report etc.
 
Well their funding is secure, so the relative quiet on site is probably due to the preliminaries going on inside. Maybe they found asbestos. Maybe they found some structural instability. Hard to know, unless you see a builder and press them for info.
It's pretty much totally trashed inside.
 
That sort of survey would have been done prior to lottery funders (& Boris House et al) agreeing it wouldn't it? Can't believe they'd have been offered that amount without a Schedule D or whatever it's called, as well as a surveyors report etc.

I'd have thought so. Doesn't prevent surprises (or accidents) though.
 
I noticed that too, but assumed it was because other people were paying to use the square (the Oval Playhouse Routemaster).

The Playhouse Routemaster was a temporary use of square. Which is appropriate use of a public square.

Ive noticed the Ritzy encampment has gone. Hasnt been there when ive been past in the last week.
 
The Playhouse Routemaster was a temporary use of square. Which is appropriate use of a public square.

Ive noticed the Ritzy encampment has gone. Hasnt been there when ive been past in the last week.

Yeah, I pointed that out a couple of weeks ago and someone said maybe the weather wasn't good (it was one of the nicest days of the year). Maybe they, or Lambeth Council saw this thread :D
 
Seats are back.

Ive emailed planning in more detail with photos and referances to Rush Common policies from Council website.

The email address on the Rush Common website page on the Lambeth website does not work. So Ive emailed planning directly this time.

Also put in the reference number for my previous query about this as they never got back to me. They are supposed to. Either to say its not a planning issue or it is.
 
Weren't there yesterday, were there today. Maybe it depends on if they have enough staff in or not.
 
My rummage around the Lambeth website for what the Ritzy is paying only comes up with this scale. Do they really only pay a few hundred quid a year for what must be a goldmine?
 
The chairs out the front of Ritzy come under Streetcare. The ones on the Square under the tree come under Parks department. But i would guess it would be similar amount.
 
Someone at the residents meeting tonight was complaining about the Ritzy using part of the square and "pushing out" the local community etc. There's a bit of a minor bunfight on Twitter about it. I can't say I object to the Ritzy using their bit of space but since the summer has come (sort of!!) it's a real reminder there isn't enough seating in the square for it to be truly used and enjoyed by all locals.
 
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