Should parents have the right to home-educate their child without sending them to school or informing the state?

[Seventy-seven]

Please assume that nobody has good reason to believe (or suspect) that the parents may fail to discharge their statutory responsibility to ensure that their child is properly educated, or may neglect or harm or abuse their child. That is a different scenario and I don't think anyone would disagree that public officials should have the right to require access to the child in those circumstances.

I have posted another poll asking a question about whether a woman should have the right to give birth and look after her baby without informing medics or the state?

Thank you to everyone who has voted in either poll.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm going to need to send a regular checker to make sure you are not indoctrinating the kid into nazism

 

[BoatieBird]

No

They should absolutely have the right to home -ed, but there needs to be a way of keeping track of these children.
How would you know if a child has genuinely been removed from school for home-ed, or if they'd been removed because e.g. there was abuse going on and the school had been asking awkward questions?

I took my son out of school to home-ed him at the age of 14 and yes, it was a pain filling in all the forms and going through the process, but I understood why the process was there.

 

[klang]

77, please open a word document, close your eyes, get your cat to walk acroos the keyboard, c&p without looking, go into settings, select change password, paste, confirm, delete word document, done. Ta.

 

[rubbershoes]

Is this something to do with maritime law?

 

[Seventy-seven]

I'm going to need to send a regular checker to make sure you are not indoctrinating the kid into nazism

The Nazis banned home education in 1938. They made school attendance compulsory. It is still compulsory in Germany.
So my advice would be that anyone who views Nazism as the way forward should vote "No" in this poll.

 

[A380]

Home schooling sounds a great thing which I would support in principle.

Sadly all of the people I have met who actually do it in the UK have been religious zelots seeking to indoctrinate their kids or nutters.

 

[BoatieBird]

Home schooling sounds a great thing which I would support in principle.

Sadly all of the people I have met who actually do it in the UK have been religious zelots seeking to indoctrinate their kids or nutters.

Ahem

 

[A380]

The Nazis banned home education in 1938. They made school attendance compulsory. It is still compulsory in Germany.
So my advice would be that anyone who views Nazism as the way forward should vote "No" in this poll.

People who disagree with you equal Hitler in two posts.

A new site record!!!

 

[A380]

Ahem

Ahem

Probably my limited associates. I mean the first sentence. Glad if it works for your kids.

 

[LDC]

The Nazis banned home education in 1938. They made school attendance compulsory. It is still compulsory in Germany.
So my advice would be that anyone who views Nazism as the way forward should vote "No" in this poll.

BOOM! That was quick. Your work here is done, we're all pro-Nazis! Just fantastic, well done.

 

[A380]

BOOM! That was quick. Your work here is done, we're all pro-Nazis! Just fantastic, well done.

Urban parenting sofa meet up earlier.

 

[BoatieBird]

Probably my limited associates. I mean the first sentence. Glad if it works for your kids.

I'll let you off as we've never actually met

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The Nazis banned home education in 1938. They made school attendance compulsory. It is still compulsory in Germany.
So my advice would be that anyone who views Nazism as the way forward should vote "No" in this poll.

Everyone you know thinks you're a weirdo and none of them actually like you.

Have a nice day.

 

[Seventy-seven]

No

They should absolutely have the right to home -ed, but there needs to be a way of keeping track of these children.
How would you know if a child has genuinely been removed from school for home-ed, or if they'd been removed because e.g. there was abuse going on and the school had been asking awkward questions?

I took my son out of school to home-ed him at the age of 14 and yes, it was a pain filling in all the forms and going through the process, but I understood why the process was there.

If officials at the school had good reason to suspect that abuse was going on, that's a different scenario from the one asked about in the poll.

I don't know what your situation was, but in the normal course of things parents who want to remove their child from a school and begin home education don't have to fill in multiple forms. (Who told you otherwise?) All they have to do is write to the headteacher saying that's what they want to do, and then do it immediately. They have that right under section 8(1)(d) of the Education (Pupil Registration) Regulations 2006. Various reputable websites have published template letters.

There is no compulsory registration of home educated children in England either. (There is in the Republic of Ireland.) So home educating parents who have never sent their child to school do not have to inform the state that they are home-educating.

Those who vote "No" in this poll would support a change to the law as it currently stands.

 

[maomao]

There are many things I don't like about my kids' school and I have made the odd fuss there but essentially my kids' school life is their private life and I should butt out of it wherever possible. Additionally, schools have a duty to be involved wherever they feel a child is not safe at home.

 

[StoneRoad]

NO.

Home education is fine, but the Child has rights ...

 

[cupid_stunt]

The Nazis banned home education in 1938. They made school attendance compulsory. It is still compulsory in Germany.
So my advice would be that anyone who views Nazism as the way forward should vote "No" in this poll.

Basically everyone else is wrong and therefore a Nazi.

Well, that didn't take long.

 

[Seventy-seven]

BOOM! That was quick. Your work here is done, we're all pro-Nazis! Just fantastic, well done.

I didn't introduce the Nazis or call anyone a Nazi. If someone thinks removing the right to home-educate without state interference leaves the door open to pro-Nazi indoctrination, they should be informed that the actual real Nazis (not some imaginary Nazis that foolish one-liner posters on the internet may have strutting about in their heads) banned home education and made school attendance compulsory.

 

[mojo pixy]

As mentioned elsewhere, children are not the property of their parents, and IMO they have a right to a balanced, comprehensive education. Home has its part to play in a child's development but so does school, especially in terms of socialisation. So generally, unless there's a really good reason for them not to, a child should attend a school.

On a personal note, I think home schooling my son would be hell for us both

 

[Red Cat]

Probably my limited associates. I mean the first sentence. Glad if it works for your kids.

A lot of people home ed their children because they have SEN and aren't able to manage mainstream and there is no alternative provision. This is a huge problem, there are thousands of familes like this, growing before Covid and massive now. My daughter can't manage mainstream and there is nowhere for her to go, no support in school, no EHCP yet, no suitable school with places. Our local hospital school for those with medical needs including anxiety has been full since the beginning of the academic year. The most vulnerable people in our socirty, children with disabilities are treated shockingly. I am off work today because my child cannot get into school, I want to work, my child wants to go to school, we didn't choose this.

 

[Raheem]

Never mind home education. Where's the option for get them mining bitcoin all day and see how the man likes that?

 

[LDC]

I didn't introduce the Nazis or call anyone a Nazi. If someone thinks removing the right to home-educate without state interference leaves the door open to pro-Nazi indoctrination, they should be informed that the actual real Nazis (not some imaginary Nazis that foolish one-liner posters on the internet may have strutting about in their heads) banned home education and made school attendance compulsory.

I really hope for their sake that you don't have children you fucking loon. If you do they'll grow up to think you're a freak.

 

[Seventy-seven]

As mentioned elsewhere, children are not the property of their parents, and IMO they have a right to a balanced, comprehensive education. Home has its part to play in a child's development but so does school, especially in terms of socialisation. So generally, unless there's a really good reason for them not to, a child should attend a school.

On a personal note, I think home schooling my son would be hell for us both

In your view, home education (defined as educating children at home and not sending them to school) should only be legal after parents have applied for and been granted permission. Is that a fair summary or have I misunderstood your position?

 

[cupid_stunt]

There is no compulsory registration of home educated children in England either.

Yet.

But, they are planning to change that, and rightly so.

Parents in England who fail to register home schooling could face sanctions

Government is planning compulsory national register but details of penalties are yet to be determined

www.theguardian.com

 

[Seventy-seven]

I really hope for their sake that you don't have children you fucking loon. If you do they'll grow up to think you're a freak.

I understand your position: state goons should kick down the doors of the weirdos and freaks.

 

[klang]

have I misunderstood

well.....yes.

 

[klang]

state goons should kick down the doors of the weirdos and freaks.

definitely!

 

[Seventy-seven]

Yet.

But, they are planning to change that, and rightly so.

Parents in England who fail to register home schooling could face sanctions

Government is planning compulsory national register but details of penalties are yet to be determined

www.theguardian.com

Indeed.
They last tried under Gordon Brown - and failed.

 

[mojo pixy]

In your view, home education (defined as educating children at home and not sending them to school) should only be legal after parents have applied for and been granted permission. Is that a fair summary or have I misunderstood your position?

That's not what I wrote at all ffs