Second round of arrests this evening re: wedding

[stuff_it]

 

[stuff_it]

And now the police just charged the sit in hippies peaceful protesters in riot vans.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Were there any established squats shut down, Anyone planning on going to RRO party still.

Yes, offmarket in hackney was busted apparently, don't know the people so don't know more than what i posted here

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Well we all know what FB are like.

I'm always expecting the axe to fall

yup.. I have been so careful with 'political' stuff.... though this wound me up with the good looking cop lifting friends P & C....
btw: who is sexy DI?

 

[gawkrodger]

Who's the copper in the suit with the 80s haircut? Special Branch?

 

[OneStrike]

Have they imported Heddlu dear viewers?

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Is good looking boy... Walsh/welsh or some way of saying it?

 

[stuff_it]

yup.. I have been so careful with 'political' stuff.... though this wound me up with the good looking cop lifting friends P & C....
btw: who is sexy DI?

Only a matter of time

Who's the copper in the suit with the 80s haircut? Special Branch?

He looks like he thinks he is in Hawaii-5-0, I bet it was his fave as a kid.

 

[audiotech]

60's/70's America, the FBI used to get the local cops to take out who were targeted as 'dangerous radicals'.

For a small number that meant an early morning raid and being shot dead in a hail of bullets.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

"don't worry the rabbit will not be harmed in any way". Brilliant video, funny and not funny at the same time. Which is why I kind of agree with dylans and pickman at the same time! But honestly dylans don't let him wind you up, saying over the top things is part of his charm.

 

[smokedout]

arrests in soho square reported on twitter, cant find any more details

http://twitter.com/#!/queerresistance

 

[Pickman's model]

Perhaps but idiot pickmans has made it clear that he thinks the arrest of Knight to be a good thing. That makes him a grade a twat as far as I am concerned

you've clearly had fuck all to do with chris knight, which makes you lucky. it's probably one of the better things to happen to mr knight, who will of course now reap a load of compo.

 

[Pickman's model]

Coming from someone who is siding with the most juvenile poster on here. A guy who has already made it clear that he finds these arrests to be great, its a bit rich for you to tell me to grow up. Go fuck yourself

i never said they were great. i don't think they're the end of the world. and the amount of money which will come from them means it's probably the most money for the least effort that any of the three will have made. there's a fucking huge silver lining to this cloud.

fucking get over yourself, dylans.

 

[Pickman's model]

Where's your sense of humour gone?

nowhere. it's still fine. i've just heard more about his work on menstruation than i have on stone age art.

 

[smokedout]

ffs.. interesting my FB a/c has been disabled whilst i was spreading the word.......

my fb account got disabled last night as well (again), bristol uncut reporting theres also taken down

 

[SpookyFrank]

as for chris knight, he's worked so bloody hard to get other people nicked that i can't feel sorry for him.

This. Anarchism doesn't need 'characters' like him thank you very much.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You are a fucking idiot

He's not, not really.

If you apply a spot of logic to the situation, then (at the cost of a relative handful of arrests) the state has made a rod for its' own back - they've indulged in illegal procedures that, if used properly, can be made to work against such tactics being used again.

There is no "preventive detention" legislation on the statute books (bear in mind that the law lords broke the last attempt) AFAICR, and "preventive arrest", while it's an excellent short-term tactic from the POV of the state, will be seized on by civil liberties groups and individuals, and broken on the wheel of justice (I suspect first here by judicial review, and then in Europe). Me, I'm glad that the Met were stupid enough (I suspect under the direction of the Home Sec) to do this (although not that people have been arrested for exercising their right to dissent): They've pretty much ensured that they can't use such a tactic again without paying so dearly for it that it isn't worth their while. It also means that any "replacement" strategies they form will be actively watched for, and thus let likely to slip past us.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They really are taking this seriously eh. I'd have thought a warning letter would have sufficed "due to your previous comments we warn you that should you be spotted anywhere near Westminster you will be arrested under section blah of the bullshit act".

AFAIK they don't have any extant legislation that would allow them to "neutralise" people in such a way.
Which is seemingly why they've adopted the tactics they have. They'll argue "reasonable suspicion", knowing that the courts will eventually fuck it off. They've shot their bolt with it, though. A case of "use once and discard" unless they're really stupid (not something to rule out where the state is concerned).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Despite having spent only 10 minutes in his company, I thought exactly the same. It was like a pied-piper thing going on. He seemed to target younger more impressionable people, and steer clear of anyone nearing his own age with a bit more nous.

He's likely so used to recruiting the young from his SWP days that he probably couldn't break out of the habit if he tried.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If I was generous I'd give you 2/10 for that Stoatie, but I'm not sure I am tbh.

All Stoaty's screed provoked from me was a lazy burbling fart, so I'd give him 0.5/10 at most.

 

[frogwoman]

so what did he actually do - knight that is? Ive never heasrd of him.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They have just shot 500 people dead in Syria for exercising freedom of expression. Strangely I didn't find that amusing either.

Rationally, you shouldn't be conflating the permanent deprivation of life in Syria with a temporary deprivation of liberty in the UK, especially when any on-the-ball person affected by the temporary deprivation (not Chris Knight, then) will be able to use the action as a tool to ensure the same tactic isn't used again.

 

[Pickman's model]

so what did he actually do - knight that is? Ive never heasrd of him.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ch...q=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=5f00154af24c9d17

 

[ViolentPanda]

Perhaps but idiot pickmans has made it clear that he thinks the arrest of Knight to be a good thing. That makes him a grade a twat as far as I am concerned

Given that Chris Knight's "contribution" to the left in the UK has been resoundingly negative, and that he's engineered situations previously that end in him being "martyred", I'm almost inclined to agree with P's M, although I dislike the fact that Knight will come into a pay-day because of it.

I deplore the arrest of others, but Chris Knight? I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire, and you won't find many others who would, either, the vapid self-mythologising faux-revolutionary tossrag.

 

[ViolentPanda]

so what did he actually do - knight that is? Ive never heasrd of him.

Basically, he mouths off. He loves being in the media, so he gobs off like he's "the Voice of Anarchism", like he speaks for the entire left, when all he really speaks for are himself and a handful of mentally-weak "followers". The media love him because he gives good quote. Anyone with actual politics hates him because he's a shitcunt who gets us all tarred with a shitty brush.

Fuck him.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

my fb account got disabled last night as well (again), bristol uncut reporting theres also taken down

There will be an article posted by WHAD and WHAM on this censorship...
btw The soup runs for our street folk were banned last night under orders of the MET.... nice timing hey? a friend got lifted for daring to attempt to feed hungry people....

 

[Idris2002]

I put that video of CK's arrest on facebook. Which produced some interest reactions from other anthropologists. One described the bould Professor Knight as 'evil' which I thought was overreacting just a tad. . .

 

[Plumdaff]

I happen to agree with a lot of the criticisms of Chris Knight, but him and his group - whatever you think of them - posed absolutely no threat to anyone today beyond bad street theatre, and that video is both hilarious and disturbing. All the arrests are is an opportunity for police posturing and the continuing crackdown of dissent to the level that you can't even voice it at the wrong time or place.

I'm not going to equate it to events overseas, but horrid times.

 

[phildwyer]

I wish you were right but it won't though. It will be spun as a necessary precaution and the "nothing to hide nothing to fear" mentality will win. Charges will be dropped and slowly slowly this kind of pre-emptive arrest will become the norm. In fact I think it already has.

That's certainly what's happened in the USA. People should be careful not to let their personal animosity towards Knight blind them to what's going on here.

 

[Idris2002]

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