Strangerdanger
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I can assure you that theyre not big on the inside lol. It could be because there are several flats under the curved portion youre seeing (side by side)...
Say hello to Barratt Homes' 'Brixton Square' on Coldharbour Lane (old Cooltan site)
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Why exactly do you classify BS as a "gated community", but not legoland?
In both cases the gates are there to keep the public out of a private communal area. It's not just cars that are excluded from the legoland courtyard; there is no pedestrain access either.
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
Simply because it has a gate.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Those are the car park gates.
The entrances to the blocks are not gated - and address the street directly - unlike Brixton Square.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Residents use the street entrances at Legoland. I go past a lot - I attend the church next door, I walk past every week for hospital appointments etc. I see people going in or out of the flats through the entrances on Coldharbour Lane pavement. I have never seen anyone drive in or out of the car park (although there are some cars parked in there obviously).
At Barratts I see young professionals sneeking though a side gate past a security guard. Like a bourgeouise Colditz.
At Barratts I see young professionals sneeking though a side gate past a security guard. Like a bourgeouise Colditz.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
So, at legoland you see people come in and out through the glass doors.
At BS you see people come in and out through the gate, except these people are "young professionals, and they are "sneeking".
It seems like we are talking more about different types of people rather than different types of entrance here.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Ambience is also important.
Strangerdanger
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Wow what a loaded statement. I can assure you that I don't "sneak" through any gates and that the security guard is there during construction times only. He's not there to protect us "sneaky professionals" he helps with the construction site.
Furthermore, though admittedly not a huge percentage, there are affordable homes in the development. I suppose they don't "sneak in" to those same gates?
Lastly, given my birthday this week, I may be a professional, but the "young" tag no longer applies.
My last flat in Brixton was in Goodwood Mansions between the acaemy and the skate park there. It's a 1930s block i think. It has a gate. With a code and everything. And always has done. Some residents have been there decades. Should I warn my erstwhile neighbours to expect some furious internet people to be rocking up to beat said gate down?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Belated Happy Birthday squire(ette)!
Good job the security was there this morning when I passed.
A well dressed black cyclist (overcoat, mid-twenties) was "cut up" by a 4x4 at the Barratts entrance. The cyclist was furious - but the security was on hand to deter anything other than an angry ejaculation from the cyclist.
The times we live in! I come from Suffolk originally. There we were taught to raise our cap to masters. If you weren't wearing a cap you touched your forelock.
Fortunately in those days nearly running over a "pleb" would have been considered bad form.
Strangerdanger
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Thanks for the birthday wishes.
All this anecdote proves is that most 4x4 drivers (in London) are selfish people who can't drive very well. Don't know why the word pleb has been brought into it. so he tried to calm down an altercation between a driver and a cyclist on his site? Don't see what's wrong with that...
All this anecdote proves is that most 4x4 drivers (in London) are selfish people who can't drive very well. Don't know why the word pleb has been brought into it. so he tried to calm down an altercation between a driver and a cyclist on his site? Don't see what's wrong with that...
editor
hiraethified
A shamefully, disgracefully tiny amount, thanks to Barratts disgusting wriggling and the council's pathetic acquiescence. That place is a monument to the council's social commitment failings and a reminder of how shabbily the community has been treated. And that big metal gate just rubs our faces in it even more.
Strangerdanger
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I agree, it was awful how they wriggled out of the original agreement. I was actual at town hall that night, waited til nearly midnight when the barratt case was finally presented. I disagree with what they did, but I'm sorry it has nothing to do with me. If you want to hold Barratt in contempt for that, fair enough. I'm just trying to get a foot on the housing ladder which is getting harder and harder to do, to which I'm sure you will agree. I don't CARE if there's a gate, if there were no gate I STILL WOULDN'T CARE, and I'm sure you'll find the majority of the residents are the same - in a city where the housing stock has pretty much run out and this government aren't building more and don't care, people will take any chance they get to get in the ladder. So back to the original point, are the few affordable tenants also "sneaking" around, or is it just us professionals who have managed to actually get a foot on the housing ladder and realise (at least in my case and the cases of a few other people in this forum) that we were INCREDIBLY lucky to do so?
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editor
hiraethified
Hey, I'm not blaming you at all and certainly hold no kind of grudge against you or any of the other residents. They're not to blame and you're not what I'm angry about!
Strangerdanger
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I probably misread what you were saying, will get down off my soapbox now!
Seriously though, barratt were really shady for what they did. I had a walk around the courtyard the other night and checked out some of (what i think were) the affordable units that are not yet occupied, and at least they look very nice. They're the larger (I think 4 bed?) units and have a balcony (on the ground floor) and then stairs which go down to what appears to be a lower ground terrace. Someone was asking about it upthread as it looks like a basement flat, but it looks like the lower ground and ground floor is the same flat.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Barratts are like Ryan Air. No publicity is bad publicity.
Most reading this won't remember all the fuss about Maggie Thatcher buying a Barratts Home in Dulwich.
She never lived there, but Barratts milked it for all the publicity they could get. The fact that half the population hated Thatcher and half loved her made it a win-win situation for Sir Laurie Barratt.
Most reading this won't remember all the fuss about Maggie Thatcher buying a Barratts Home in Dulwich.
She never lived there, but Barratts milked it for all the publicity they could get. The fact that half the population hated Thatcher and half loved her made it a win-win situation for Sir Laurie Barratt.
Strangerdanger
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Never knew about this!Barratts are like Ryan Air. No publicity is bad publicity.
Most reading this won't remember all the fuss about Maggie Thatcher buying a Barratts Home in Dulwich.
She never lived there, but Barratts milked it for all the publicity they could get. The fact that half the population hated Thatcher and half loved her made it a win-win situation for Sir Laurie Barratt.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Were I buying a new-build, I'd be cynical enough to try to seek out one without any affordable/social housing attached because this 'subsidy' would probably push up the sales prices.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I hope they don't put planters there, because otherwise every pissed-up nightlife-visitor is going to be be boaking or pissing in them, or worse.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I was amazed to see people walk out of a concert of Stockhausen electronic music at the Barbican a few years ago. I think he is wonderful. I'm into stretching the boundaries of taste.
I gather the complaint about the Legoland flats is they are too plain and not challenging enough.
Which is essentially what I am saying about Brixton Square - except that their GATES are dominating and morbid - to add a couple of descriptors to the planning department's bland vocabulary.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
such as filling them with cans and bottles. If so will Barratts lease-holders have to pay to clear up the mess - or Lambeth council tax payers?
Strangerdanger
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Never saw any of Stockhausen's stuff performed live, but I did listen to a live broadcast of "Stimmung" on the radio back in the '90s, which was much better than the studio recording CD I had.
That, at least, is what teuchter thinks.
Especially now they appear to have painted the gates in a gloss black, in best "interior gates on a prison wing" style.
