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Tonight's UK newspaper front pages have disgraced themselves, with only a few exceptions. The Sun looks like they've added a fake muzzle flash...

.....they're all at it....nice big spreads of the "action shots".......they look like screen-shots from some video-game first-person shoot 'em up with the hand & gun poking from the side of the screen with that CGI looking muzzle flash ( which I guess may just be the way the picture came out ) and carefully selected to capture the horrified expression of the victim as they're being murdered....:confused: :(

....I can see absolutley no justification for pandering to the murderer's twisted desire to turn a private act of madness and violence into some voyeuristic snuff-footage media extravaganza.....horrible toxic videodrome stuff.....

...whilst they seem equally quite happy to act as publicity agents for ISIS latest atrocity exhibition at least there's arguably some sort of justification if it helps solidify or guide public opinion behind those who are actually fighting to stop it happening....
 
I'm pretty sure to get guns out of american society would require a profound cultural shift of the kind that takes generations to come about. And I'm not even sure its the ease of access to weaponry that is the problem tbh.
Britain had a mass killing and banned guns, we haven't had one since!
The logic seems simple.
 
I'm pretty sure to get guns out of american society would require a profound cultural shift of the kind that takes generations to come about. And I'm not even sure its the ease of access to weaponry that is the problem tbh.

I suspect if the culture shifted, you wouldn't need to ban guns. People just wouldn't feel the same need to buy them. Here's an article that suggests that the roots go deeper than simple gun ownership. Its seems to be better than MSN's standard fare.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/american-exceptionalism-and-the-‘exceptionally-american’-problem-of-mass-shootings/ar-BBm9m4V?ocid=iehp
 
so derek bird just passed you by then?
I might have the timeline wrong, but Britain did ban handguns largely from public ownership at some point.

Piers Morgan has been tweeting today, things like:

Britain banned guns after Dunblane - no school shootings since. America did nothing after Newton - 100+ school shootings since.

Over 100,000 people in America will be hit by gunfire in 2015. Fact.

and

England has bad people. We have 32 gun deaths a year. You have 80 a day. Do the math.
 
I suspect if the culture shifted, you wouldn't need to ban guns. People just wouldn't feel the same need to buy them. Here's an article that suggests that the roots go deeper than simple gun ownership. Its seems to be better than MSN's standard fare.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/american-exceptionalism-and-the-‘exceptionally-american’-problem-of-mass-shootings/ar-BBm9m4V?ocid=iehp
eurgh I just had to look up american exceptionalism. Thats absolutely rank. They teach this to kids? Like english imperial Providence. How is it not just a refined form of manifest destiny? just what the fuck is that.
 
I might have the timeline wrong, but Britain did ban handguns largely from public ownership at some point.

Piers Morgan has been tweeting today, things like:

Britain banned guns after Dunblane - no school shootings since. America did nothing after Newton - 100+ school shootings since.

Over 100,000 people in America will be hit by gunfire in 2015. Fact.

and

England has bad people. We have 32 gun deaths a year. You have 80 a day. Do the math.
It's not a fucking competition :facepalm:
 
yebbut if it was, we are winning.

Thing with Derek Bird's spree kill is that he had some vile hunting rounds that prevent a through-and-through so will put you in the ground for his rifle and a shotgun. And he bimbled about in his car just merrily offing people. Handguns were banned total under blair after the dunblane massacre, but that didn't stop the custard killer did it? If you were quiet, sly and careful about it you could do a spree kill with a stanley knife..

Automatic rifles, carbines etc is slightly different. Thats just not supposed to be in the hands of anyone other than a soldier and even then I don't have to like it.
 
eurgh I just had to look up american exceptionalism. Thats absolutely rank. They teach this to kids? Like english imperial Providence. How is it not just a refined form of manifest destiny? just what the fuck is that.

I've actually heard preachers from the pulpit preach that the US is really the land promised in the bible. It goes back to the rise of that weird right-wing cult that calls itself Christianity but really worships the flag, money and guns. I'm not certain Jesus makes the list, other than as a framework to hang their prejudices on.
 
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I've actually heard preachers from the pulpit preach that the US is really the land promised in the bible. It goes back to the rise of that weird right-wing cult that calls itself Christianity but really worships money and guns.
two people seperated by a common tongue etc- it sort of reminds me, when you speak of a money and guns religion, of some dusty town in nowhersville which is just a strip of shops and houses. White houses on one side, black houses down the other end of the town. Everyones got a winchester or a cheap shotgun (are remmingtons cheap? over here they just sell shaving equipment for men). I'll have to come see one day.
 
two people seperated by a common tongue etc- it sort of reminds me, when you speak of a money and guns religion, of some dusty town in nowhersville which is just a strip of shops and houses. White houses on one side, black houses down the other end of the town. Everyones got a winchester or a cheap shotgun (are remmingtons cheap? over here they just sell shaving equipment for men). I'll have to come see one day.

I'll take you out for some target shooting! :p
 
More loathsome Breitbart nonsense.

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(c/o Fagburn)
 
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