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Release Lockerbie bomber Abdelbasset Ali al-Megrahi or not?

release al-Megrahi from prison or not?

  • al-Megrahi should die in a Scottish prison serving his sentence

    Votes: 61 37.4%
  • Transfer al-Megrahi to a Libyan jail to continue his sentence at home

    Votes: 19 11.7%
  • Release al-Megrahi on compassionate grounds

    Votes: 83 50.9%

  • Total voters
    163
yeah, but if he'd seen through the appeal, he'd of had his name cleared and the victims families wouldn't have had such a bad taste in their mouth
 
true, but nothing to stop the case being reopened. I just think the whole thing couldn't have been handled any worse.
Yes we get access to oil, the state gets to avoid the embarrassment of a miscarriage of justice and Megrahi is out, but we look like slimy mercenary fucks
 
true, but nothing to stop the case being reopened. I just think the whole thing couldn't have been handled any worse.
Yes we get access to oil, the state gets to avoid the embarrassment of a miscarriage of justice and Megrahi is out, but we look like slimy mercenary fucks

which is a perfectlygood description of the british govt's conduct, is it not?
 
Those reports were just stupid. The only question was how accurate the medical opinion was.

The medical opinion used was that of the head of the prison service medial service. Having met a number of prison doctors, one comes to the conclusion that they are there because they cannot get employment elsewhere. They were a disinterested and callous lot, who had little but contempt for their patients, and were not highly skilled practitioners.
 
Isn't the quality of the medical opinion a bit of a distraction since he probably wasn't responsible for the bombing and the whole exercise was a way of releasing him without acknowledging this?
 
There is no satisfaction in knowing that he will soon be dead.

I would prefer to know the truth regarding the bombing.
 
How accurate are prognoses of amount of time left in cancer cases anyway? If that video footage is a true representation of his condition now then they just got their timing wrong. Deliberately or otherwise. If it was misrepresented and if it was the prison doctor's initiative to misrepresent that then he's far from callous.
 
How accurate are prognoses of amount of time left in cancer cases anyway? If that video footage is a true representation of his condition now then they just got their timing wrong. Deliberately or otherwise. If it was misrepresented and if it was the prison doctor's initiative to misrepresent that then he's far from callous.
It's interesting, isn't it, that Mr Sas would be shouting about a "childish acab attitude" if anyone expressed about prison officers or police officers the opinions he expresses about prison medics.

The fact remains that al-Megrahi was not faking cancer, and that the doctor was right that he didn't have long to live. The people who think these things can be spot on are missing the point; he was a dying man released on compassionate grounds. If you don't like that, tough.
 
The fact remains that al-Megrahi was not faking cancer, and that the doctor was right that he didn't have long to live. The people who think these things can be spot on are missing the point; he was a dying man released on compassionate grounds. If you don't like that, tough.

Indeed. Glad the poor sod got to spend the last two years with his family.
 
I have read the article by Robert Fisk in the Independent, and seen the television documentary, both of which cast very severe doubt over the conviction of Al Magrahi. It annoys me that the media (ITN and CNN recently) casually refer to him as 'The Lockerbie Bomber' rather than calling him 'the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing'.

I suspect that the reason he was released was because he was due to make an appeal. That appeal would have brought the evidence found by Fisk and the documentary makers into court and opened up the publicity on the political motivations for his being charged when originally it had been a team of Syrians who had been suspected. Luckily for our secret services and their political overlords, al Megrahi became mortally ill. I don't think this was faked, but it gave a marvellous excuse to get him out of the country and out of the courts.

How unfortunate for our secret services that the Libyan scapegoat government is now toppled. The comment about Megrahi 'taking the secret of Lockerbie to his grave' is nonsense, as he most likely didn't do it in the first place.

It shouldn't be impossible for the whole case to be opened up again with a view to finding out which country instigated the bombing. After all we now no longer need to scapegoat Libya and Ghadaffi and we also no longer need not to upset Syria
 
I have read the article by Robert Fisk in the Independent, and seen the television documentary, both of which cast very severe doubt over the conviction of Al Magrahi. It annoys me that the media (ITN and CNN recently) casually refer to him as 'The Lockerbie Bomber' rather than calling him 'the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing'.
Indeed. Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora was killed in the Lockerbie bomb, has always said he doubted the man's guilt. From the outside, it seemed strange to me that he was convicted, but not the man accused of being his accomplice. Since much of the presented case linked the two, I couldn't see how one could be convicted but not the other; it was surely both or neither. However, I was only following reports; I wasn't in court.
 
The comment about Megrahi 'taking the secret of Lockerbie to his grave' is nonsense, as he most likely didn't do it in the first place.

I was under the impression that although Megrahi didn't 'do it' he was very high up in the Libyan equivalent of our intelligence services and would therefore probably have at least some knowledge about the whole thing, if it was indeed a Libyan attack.

As for his health he was(allegedly) refusing treatment while in Scotland ergo he WAS deteriorating rapidly but when he got home he got treatment which obviously helped prolong his life. The doctors couldn't have known he was going to get good treatment once he got home.

As hard as it might be to not know the truth I think the families of those murdered need to try to accept that that's the way it is and move on. I have no idea if I could but would like to think it is possible. I'd hate to have something like that festering in me for over 20 yrs! :(
 
Find the whole thing about extraditing him or not very strange given he's served time and been released on compassionate grounds. What exactly would he be extradited for? And really, not sure why the Westminster government's trying to get involved.
 
Find the whole thing about extraditing him or not very strange given he's served time and been released on compassionate grounds. What exactly would he be extradited for? And really, not sure why the Westminster government's trying to get involved.
My guess is that the Westminster government just wants a chance to do some posturing and also crawling to the Americans. It is a couple of American senators who have called for extradition. Cameron has said before that he didn't agree with releasing Megrahi. Cameron has his own petty political reasons probably about objecting to Scottish freedom to make these decisions.
 
Oh, it's definitely about playing to the gallery but you do get the feeling they haven't exactly thought this through...
 
I would prefer to know the truth regarding the bombing.

At the time of the trial I was working with APTN and those covering the case said that 100% of the journos there knew that he had not much to do with it. The attack was orchastrated by the Iranians in revenge for the US downing one of their airliners with barely an appology.

Who actually planted the bomb, to Jim Swire and many others, is not the issue, why the bomb was planted is. The US doesn't want to dwell on that bit though.

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Oh, it's definitely about playing to the gallery but you do get the feeling they haven't exactly thought this through...
Exactly. Extradited for what? The UK or US governments would have to come up with a charge if they want to extradite him. It can't be for the Lockerbie bombing; he's been tried and found guilty by Scots courts for that, and the Scottish government doesn't want to extradite him.

There have been calls for him to be returned to jail in the UK or tried in the US, but these were dismissed by Mr Salmond.

"The Scottish government has never had any intention of asking for the extradition of Mr al-Megrahi because he's conformed to his licence conditions," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14705838
 
Exactly. Extradited for what? The UK or US governments would have to come up with a charge if they want to extradite him. It can't be for the Lockerbie bombing; he's been tried and found guilty by Scots courts for that, and the Scottish government doesn't want to extradite him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14705838

But it was only a *Scottish* court so not really a proper one as far as the Westminster government's concerned.
 
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