Re-opening Schools?

[existentialist]

You realise you are saying the present situation arised entirely during a period the schools were shut?, everything that happened before that including lack of school measure is just out of the picture?..and making any new mitigations from here on in is pointless because of this?

You've lost me matey

I think that something a lot of people, including platinumsage, and apparently our government, seem to fail to understand is that we do things at a point in time to PREVENT consequences happening a couple of weeks down the line. There were actions that could have been taken before the schools closed to minimise the spread of infection - they weren't taken. There are actions that could be taken now that could minimise the risk of future spread - they aren't being taken.

This government has spent pretty much the entire pandemic - starting from the delay in the initial lockdown - not doing something "because there isn't a problem now", and then, on the back foot, having to take actions - all too often, too little and too late - to deal with the fact that their earlier failure has led to them having to deal with a much worse problem. Rinse and repeat.

In addition to which, when they have started to gain some kind of advantage over the spread of this damn virus, they piss THAT up the wall by deciding that, since we've apparently "beaten the virus", we can have a Freedom Day, and abandon the very steps that made the situation look like we had it all under control.

It has been an abject farrago of bullshit, failure, and hubris. Please don't play into that.

ETA: corrected my misattributed reply.

 

[planetgeli]

All told on Teams this morning THIS SCHOOL WILL NOT CLOSE.

So I had words, management are better than I make them sound in those CAPS and I'm wfh for now.

 

[_Russ_]

It has been an abject farrago of bullshit, failure, and hubris. Please don't play into that.

How the fuck am I playing into that?

 

[Dogsauce]

We (large primary) are preparing for home learning again, in anticipation that large numbers of kids will be isolating at home or that full classes will have to close.

 

[spanglechick]

I had 3 absent from 29 in my year ten class today (none coded as covid in the register, though they might be), one absence from y13 (covid) and no absences from my y12s.

Bloody loads of staff off though.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Kids at my current school are not allowed to wear coats in class for any reason. It must have been below some legal minimum temperature in some of my classes today with all the windows open.

We've also got spare supply teachers wandering around with nothing to do because the school block-booked them before christmas despite having no idea what absences would be like. Which seems like a bit of a dick move considering the perilous staff shortages elsewhere.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Several departments at college with more than half staff absent. About a dozen students off with covid in my department.

 

[elbows]

 

[Steel Icarus]

They're going to run schools into the ground, aren't they.

 

[Badgers]

FFS

Forcing children to wear masks is dystopian, says Gruffalo author Julia Donaldson

Forcing pupils to wear masks in the classroom is dystopian and critics should not be smeared as Trumpian Covid-deniers, the children’s author Julia Donaldson h

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[kabbes]

The thing about it being dystopian is that we are actually living in a dystopia. The masks reflect that reality, they don't cause it.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I eagerly await Chris Whitty's opinion on whether the plot of The Gruffalo encourages children that deceit, if the end result is good for an individual no matter how many lies they tell, is acceptable.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I eagerly await Chris Whitty's opinion on whether the plot of The Gruffalo encourages children that deceit, if the end result is good for an individual no matter how many lies they tell, is acceptable.

Considering who it pleases him to shill for for a living I think we know the answer to that.

 

[Badgers]

Having tested several hundred school kids last week...

They are probably pleased to have their awful acne and wonky brace teeth covered

 

[Steel Icarus]

My daughter's happy to wear one, she knows she's protecting others. She's a good girl, hates Boris, injustice, etc

 

[_Russ_]

I had 3 absent from 29 in my year ten class today (none coded as covid in the register, though they might be), one absence from y13 (covid) and no absences from my y12s.

Bloody loads of staff off though.

What proportion of parents do you estimate are actually testing now?, the media narrative is definately swinging to living with it and busy parents are readily influenced to follow a path that makes life easier.

 

[cyberfairy]

My ten year child has been confirmed as having covid for the second time in six fucking weeks. Still have food on fridge from last isolation shop.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I think those who have throughout are still testing, same for following mask rules etc. Those who haven't aren't.

My college has posted on social media that masks are to be worn in classrooms as well as in all communal areas. However, staff can only request masks are worn, not demand; students can be given an exemption sticker if they ask for one and staff are not allowed to ask why they're exempt; even some students wearing masks get around it by constantly pretending to be eating or sipping from a can. No staff have any way of making students follow the guidelines so obviously very, very few staff even request masks are worn. I'd put mask wearing at about 25% tops around communal areas, though almost all staff are wearing them.

 

[nagapie]

Teaching with a mask on is quite difficult. The students can't hear me properly and neither I them.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Teaching with a mask on is quite difficult. The students can't hear me properly and neither I them.

Teachers don't have to wear one when delivering.

 

[nagapie]

Teachers don't have to wear one when delivering.

Yeah, I have to take mine down. I also ask my students to when answering questions, as long as they feel comfortable.

 

[spanglechick]

What proportion of parents do you estimate are actually testing now?, the media narrative is definately swinging to living with it and busy parents are readily influenced to follow a path that makes life easier.

It’s a secondary. I imagine most of the parents leave it up to the kids and always have.

 

[spring-peeper]

From my s-i-l's facebook page.



I asked him if the book was the bible, and he had no idea what I was on about.

 

[spring-peeper]

From my s-i-l's facebook page.

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I asked him if the book was the bible, and he had no idea what I was on about.

Wrong thread

But i see that Sue already saw it.

gonna copy it to the other thread.

 

[elbows]

Sounds like penty of schools are sticking with masks for now.

Masks to stay in many secondary schools despite England rule change

Headteachers across England say they plan to encourage pupils to keep wearing masks during Omicron spread

www.theguardian.com

 

[SpookyFrank]

From my s-i-l's facebook page.

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I asked him if the book was the bible, and he had no idea what I was on about.

Clearly not that dangerous of an environment; the people shooting the fire arrows don't even know which end to light.

 

[chilango]

I'm hearing of boxes containing thousands of masks arriving unsolicited at schools just hours before the no masks announcement

 

[Dogsauce]

We’ve had a big box sat in the corridor for a couple of weeks. It’s a primary so no requirement for them, and we have a stack of unused ones already.

 

[Cloo]

Oldest's school is saying they are looking at rules now, but nothing changing this week. I think a lot of schools will keep them given the high caseload - it would seem pretty nutty to stop at the moment. Interestingly haven't heard of any cases among oldest's friends but there were at least 10 this week at son's primary (including him), where of course there aren't any masks.

 

[Dogsauce]

One reception class at mine has five pupils and one LSA out.