Re-Heating Rice

[bi0boy]

About as risky as a watermelon.

 

[Blagsta]

Okay, I guess my question is more specific being why the 'reheating' aspect seems to be the main point of contention everywhere when it is a total irrelevance, as you have at least as much risk when eating left-over rice that has not been re-heated.

Unless, of course - for some reason I've missed - it isn't a total irrelevance.

Because the bacteria need warmth to multiply.

 

[high castle]

More or less, yes.

Left-over (not reheated) rice has 'more or less' as much chance as causing food poisoning as reheated rice?

 

[Blagsta]

What is correct storage?

Below 5 degrees C or above 63

 

[bi0boy]

Rice isn't especially more dangerous than say, unreheated or reheated meat.

 

[Kanda]

I batch cook rice for re-heating/frying during the week.. I just toss it in the fridge as soon as it's cooked.

 

[pogofish]

Left-over (not reheated) rice has 'more or less' as much chance as causing food poisoning as reheated rice?

It has a significant chance - IIRC its the cooling phase that can be the most risky for promoting bacterial activity - then the next reheat.

Blagsta is right about the temp range, although there has been some revision to the upper level recently. IIRC some are now advising around 74C

 

[high castle]

I batch cook rice for re-heating/frying during the week.. I just toss it in the fridge as soon as it's cooked.

Doesn't that change the temperature of the fridge?

 

[Kanda]

Doesn't that change the temperature of the fridge?

Slightly maybe, I have a boost button on the fridge I use when I put shopping/warm stuff in there *shrug*

 

[high castle]

It has a significant chance - IIRC its the cooling phase that can be the most risky for promoting bacterial activity - then the next reheat.

Blagsta is right about the temp range, although there has been some revision to the upper level recently. IIRC some are now advising around 74C

'Significant chance' is a useful enough phrase, thanks. What does 'IIRC' stand for?

 

[mauvais]

I don't know owt about this and I couldn't help if I did.

 

[fractionMan]

omg. how do people ever survive without a fridge etc?

 

[pogofish]

What does 'IIRC' stand for?

If I Recall Correctly.

 

[Kanda]

It's 'If I remember correctly'

 

[bi0boy]

omg. how do people ever survive without a fridge etc?

There are 3,000,000,000 people without fridges eating rice on a daily basis in Asia, including reheated rice and cooked unheated rice. If rice badgers were at all common, millions of people would die from eating rice every year.

 

[Crispy]

Recombobulate

 

[geminisnake]

It's 'If I remember correctly'

No, it's if I recall correctly

 

[Kanda]

No, it's if I recall correctly

and more, it seems: http://www.acronymfinder.com/IIRC.html

 

[high castle]

Is left-over (not reheated) rice special in any way when not refridgerated - in terms of the risk of food poisoning? What if you eat left-over (not reheated and not refridgerated ) pasta, lentils, vegetables, chicken, pork, beef, etc.? Do they pose the same risk of food-poisoning?

 

[fractionMan]

I'm indecisive, recommend confirmation.

 

[pogofish]

There are 3,000,000,000 people without fridges eating rice on a daily basis in Asia, including reheated rice and cooked unheated rice. If rice badgers were at all common, millions of people would die from eating rice every year.

Funnilly enough, most of the research and clinical experience in rice-related poisoning does come out of Asia and its a considerable body of work - so this is hardly a rare problem!

Then there are secondary isues around storage and shipping of rice - some seem to think that this can increase the problem for further flung markets and some have been pursung a line that suggests there may be a degree of genetic or otherwise acquired resistence to bacillus cerus in some races.

 

[Schmetterling]

Secondary toxins created by the bacterial action, which will not be destroyed by reheating and can be every bit as nasty as the bacteria themselves.

In my case it was nine weeks in hospital with all sorts of unpleasantness including the first stages of kidney failure and one of my testicles swelling-up to the size of a grapefruit and many months of feeling utterly shit afterwards as my body slowly expelled the toxins from my system.

Really.. not.. worth.. it..!

Buster pogofish and his unfeasibly large testicle!!!! Sorry; it's just so much more satisfying to laugh at someone else's expense.

 

[bi0boy]

Funnilly enough, most of the research and clinical experience in rice-related poisoning does come out of Asia and its a considerable body of work - so this is hardly a rare problem!

There's a "considerable body of work" on a number of rare diseases. Rice poisoning for people who own fridges is a rare occurrence not worth worrying about to any greater degree than any of the other causes of food poisoning.

 

[pogofish]

There's a "considerable body of work" on a number of rare diseases. Rice poisoning for people who own fridges is a rare occurrence not worth worrying about to any greater degree than any of the other causes of food poisoning.

True enough - there are plenty other risks for food poisoning and rice shouldn't be any more or less of a worry there.

 

[pogofish]

What if you eat left-over (not reheated and not refridgerated ) pasta, lentils, vegetables, chicken, pork, beef, etc.? Do they pose the same risk of food-poisoning?

You might want to browse some more in Urban's fine collection of food poisoning threads then - I think all of those are well covered!

 

[geminisnake]

and more, it seems: http://www.acronymfinder.com/IIRC.html

I like this oneand the one below it
Iraqi Islamic Reconciliation Conference