Prometheus SPOILER thread
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Reno
The In Kraut
Don't you torrent most stuff anyway ?
Films have always been compromised by commercial requirements, the difference is that before DVD we hardly ever got to see a director's preferred version and now we do. Now the material that got cut out doesn't go in the trash bin anymore. What I would give for a director's cut of Orson Welles' The Magnificent Ambersons.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
For sure, but I think it is also used for purely cynical reasons too - to milk the consumers.
I've given up on torrenting btw
I've given up on torrenting btw
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Because we killed Jesus apparently. Even the ever spinning justifications being offered are bad..!
Reno
The In Kraut
I doubt that the longer cut of Prometheus will turn it into a massively better or more coherent film anyway.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Aye, that much is certain!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
ska invita
back on the other side
sorry if this has been asked - who set up the holograms? For what purpose now?
This film reminded more of Alien v Predator than a proper Aliens film
This film reminded more of Alien v Predator than a proper Aliens film
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
A mate said Prometheus is the Alien franchise's Phantom Menace. I wouldn't go that far myself!
gosub
~#
Like a futuristic aircraft black box
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I'd compare it more to Twin Peaks.
Reno
The In Kraut
Once the Internet tide turns against a film, because it falls short of impossibly high expectations, the discussion decends into hyperbolic negativity. Fanboy fundamentalists then parrot how the film is the worst thing ever, even though in the real world it got decent reviews and was successful. Everybody who disagrees with that type of group think gets shouted down and declared an idiot, because apparently the internet is there to force one single consensus on a film. Moderate opinions don't cut it. In that respect Prometheus is on its way of becoming this years Avatar.
Reno
The In Kraut
There were no dancing dwarves !
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
In what way?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
This is very true. I really enjoyed the film but then got thinking about its manifold absurdities. Once this thread got going, even more appeared until it just became nit-picking.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
In that it made no sense.
Reno
The In Kraut
There is a difference between surrealism and a poorly worked out screenplay. That said, enough made sense in both.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I know, I was being facetious.
ska invita
back on the other side
holograms please! Who and why! In fact an explanation of what the complex is full stop would be nice. Re holograms "Like a futuristic aircraft black box" makes no sense, because in the control room bit the holograms show how to fly the thing sort of. I think some sort of futuristic nonsense plot device is (yet again) the only explanation.
I liked the film and had an enjoyable cinema experience, but i cant think of another sci-fi film that left me wondering what id just seen, and not because it was deliberately attempting to stimulate the speculative mind (like a Lynch film). It really does belong in the second division of sci-films when it comes to plot, sense, believability (a number of guffaw-out-loud moments broke out in the cinema), characterisation and chemistry. It did look incredible and was slickly executed so stylish was it that I could excuse the substance. I hate CGI but this 'felt' great...everything had a gravity to it. I really reckon it was a lot like AVP - which I also really enjoyed. AVP had a tighter plot set up and execution though.
Talking of AVP the alien world of this universe is starting to get pretty full of fuckers - Engineers Aliens and Predators - 3 out of 3 contacts are gits. Why cant we just all get along?
ETA: When the first credit came up as the film ended in the cinema everyone laughed... release of tension? A little...but also because it was pretty ridiculous - the last 10 minutes laid it on particularly thick
I liked the film and had an enjoyable cinema experience, but i cant think of another sci-fi film that left me wondering what id just seen, and not because it was deliberately attempting to stimulate the speculative mind (like a Lynch film). It really does belong in the second division of sci-films when it comes to plot, sense, believability (a number of guffaw-out-loud moments broke out in the cinema), characterisation and chemistry. It did look incredible and was slickly executed so stylish was it that I could excuse the substance. I hate CGI but this 'felt' great...everything had a gravity to it. I really reckon it was a lot like AVP - which I also really enjoyed. AVP had a tighter plot set up and execution though.
Talking of AVP the alien world of this universe is starting to get pretty full of fuckers - Engineers Aliens and Predators - 3 out of 3 contacts are gits. Why cant we just all get along?
ETA: When the first credit came up as the film ended in the cinema everyone laughed... release of tension? A little...but also because it was pretty ridiculous - the last 10 minutes laid it on particularly thick
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
No, Zeus and his parents were titans. The Greek pantheon are basically titans who've managed to beat all the others and imprison them in various ways. Like making Atlas carry the sky.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
In that it was pretty but under the surface glitter was a bit of a hodgepodge mess?
ska invita
back on the other side
Jesus fuck, this article claims Ridley Scott said that Jesus was akshully an Engineer and the reason they want to destory the earth is because he was killed 
- includes the quote
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?
Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.
- includes the quotehttp://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?
Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.
Reno
The In Kraut
I was only talking about the Internet backlash against both films, which was not to imply that the films are the same or have the same problems.
I don't see why Avatar is a mess. Unlike with Prometheus the plotting is solid. Its perfectly coherent and there are few ambiguities left by the end. Its detractors accuse Avatar being derivatve, naive and preachy. Some of that I agree with, but that's something I have no interest in getting into on this thread (again).
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Its a military installation. Their version of security surveillance?
Why its playing back without clearance from a security officer is a bit wrong though.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Yeah, I was being a bit glib with that. They're different kinds of messes. Or something.
Basically, both were pretty but rather flawed.
Reno
The In Kraut
Jesus fuck, this article claims Ridley Scott said that Jesus was akshully an Engineer and the reason they want to destory the earth is because he was killed
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?
Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.
That was in an earlier screenplay. Well, he rightly threw it out because it's a little OTT, so not sure why that now should be held against him or the film.
Redeyes
Ptooff!
They're part of some sort of futuristic security surveillance camera set up. David figured out how to turn on their playback when he looked closely at that goo between his fingers and then pressed the controls on the wall which switched on the playback.
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