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Professionals send Brixton property prices surging by 15%

Why are they considered different, the way they dress, European royals owe a significant proportion of their wealth from colonising and subjugating people less well equipped militarily by proxy, I believe the British Royals and certain other parts of the establishment did very well out of forcing the Chinese to allow vast quantities of opium into their country for example

I dont think the Royal family can be said to benefit directly from imperialism in a straightforward way.

Also the East European royal families like in Romania for example etc were not linked to imperialism. Some of them are still around though not recognised officially as royalty in there own countries any more. The "king" of Romania returned after communism fell to visit the country.
 
I'll take you at face value, but I do wonder whether I should just wave to ak :)
You really have a problem with me, don't you? Posh, rich, racist and using unacceptable slang. Why don't you just put me on ignore and save yourself some heartache?

My boss's income is published in the partnership report. Last year it was just over 3million. He doesn't live in Brixton. We were talking about 'the rich' not brixton incomes.

One of the other partners does live in Brixton- he earned just over 1.5million in the last financial year. He bought his house 20 years ago. One of the others lives in Camberwell. Also on 1.5, been there a while but not sure he long, I've never asked.


give over. if you don't want your posts commented on then the solution is very, very simple: read more and post less. Whining because someone questions what you've written is as ludicrous as whimpering because you're identified as rich.

Let's remind ourselves, you're a willing participant in a gentrification thread in the Brixton forum of Urban75 called "Professionals send Brixton property prices surging by 15%". Actually more than that, you're all over it, there is demographic change and you're by far its most visible face.

You've chosen that role, just as you choose to insist, over and over, that we get just how well connected you are, how important you are, how successful, how stellar. You're a winner in life, and you've made sure we know it. The clear implication doesn't need to be vocalised.

I offered you some good advice earlier, which was that maybe you should recalibrate what you think of as rich to closer to local norms. You didn't have the gumption to take it.

If you'd actually bothered to read what other people have written you might have noticed that this subject is close to a lot of hearts, that even within this narrow, self selecting group there are plenty of personal testimonies of lives that have had to change course because people with real ties simply cannot afford to live here. People have been directly pushed out because others with no ties to the area but greater privilege, more wealth, more power have muscled their way in. If that sounds brutal it's because it is. You have made other people cry.

If you had any sensitivity at all you might have given that some thought before you started bragging about knocking two homes into one or about your mates who 'drop' a quarter of a million pounds on bling. btw I still don't know what drop means- does it mean spend or gamble or what? Like most, I do have some understanding of how slang is used to delineate those who are part of the charmed circle and those who aren't- the guys hanging around by the shops know too, but it's very unlikely you'll get what they're saying about you.

Yes, bragging. Rubbing peoples noses in it.
No idea what the numbers, locations or length of occupation is for other partners from other firms, either. Or for people in other professions. Or trust fund holders. Or people who sold out businesses and made money, or all sorts of people who may be around here.
is that what you think Brixton is like :eek:

The financial situation of people I've met, worked with or actually know isn't, I would have thought, particularly relevant to anything.


ah but it is, as I posted up there #909 "Pretty much all of us know people financially both wealthier and less well off than ourselves, their experiences allow us to calibrate our own expectations of what 'rich' and 'poor' mean." It matters that you know people who earn three million pounds a year and that most of the rest of us have never knowingly met anyone like that, nor are ever likely to. Nor have our neighbours. Do you have even the slightest idea of how far beyond the wildest of wild dreams that is?

Maybe you harbour ambitions to be them in a few years, maybe you always were them.

People being paid three, or one and a half million pounds a year have helped calibrate what you think of as normal, your norms, far far more than the 50% of local children who qualify for free school meals. You've forgotten them already, haven't you?

Why are you in Brixton?
 
Come on Newbie give Manter a break.

You do good posts every now and then but I think this is going to far.
yeah? gentrification thread turns into one about her and the fabulous princess she knows and we're all supposed to smile?
 
It's escalating because she's not taking in a word he or anyone else has said. It gets a bit annoying, and does rather reinforce the impression that Manter's bubble is the only one she's capable of engaging with.
 
yeah? gentrification thread turns into one about her and the fabulous princess she knows and we're all supposed to smile?

What the Saudi one?

Funnily enough I met one in Hyde Park last week . She was looking for the entrance to Winter Wonderland. Had a decent chat. Stunning as well.:D:cool:
 
It's escalating because she's not taking in a word he or anyone else has said. It gets a bit annoying, and does rather reinforce the impression that Manter's bubble is the only one she's capable of engaging with.

The thing about message boards is that things can get out of hand easily. They are useful but that, ive learnt, has to be taken into account. You can see only a part of a person. Its not the same as talking to someone directly and seeing there facial expression and body language as well.
 
The thing about message boards is that things can get out of hand easily. They are useful but that, ive learnt, has to be taken into account. You can see only a part of a person. Its not the same as talking to someone directly and seeing there facial expression and body language as well.

That also benefits some posters here that choose to tear into people without having to face them /brave new world
 
it's words on a screen, nothing more. completely ignorable by simply clicking away. or, there to be quoted and argued about.
 
it's words on a screen, nothing more. completely ignorable by simply clicking away. or, there to be quoted and argued about.
Of course it's more than words on a screen. Posting on a bulletin board is like having a written conversation; not simply akin to reading an impersonal article.
 
Is it that difficult to understand that people are moving to Brixton because it (was) affordable and has great transport links? It's not just Brixton, it's Streatham too. Should everyone read these forums first and then make an informed decision? No, they're going by all the positive press the place has received over the last 5 or so years...

Sure, it sucks for some people but don't fucking attack people because they're trying to settle somewhere they can afford... Look at the root causes....
 
Finally caught up with the thread

*shakes fist at quimmy for summoning her to a 30 pager with 25 pages of people talking at cross purposes* :mad:

Brockley is a bit odd, though. Although (IIRC) it was mostly a "working class suburb" in the same way Watford was (i.e. built around a trade), it was never slummy in the way that bits of Battersea, Brixton etc were, so perhaps the reason it's happening now is because there was actually less availability of the sort of cheap "doer-uppers" that the more inner-city parts of south London had, and that's helped places like Brockley to preserve their identity for longer?
My in-laws live there. It's the new train connections wot done it.


you've missed my point. In some parts of london, you have schools next to each other that are becoming racial segregated. That is completely different to whites large scale giving up on areas and leaving lock stock and barrel to avoid minorities (when of course they wouldn't drive their kids back there every morning for school)- the former is racial segregation within a community, the latter is white flight from a community. And in Brixton, middle class professionals, often white, are moving in.
It's not necessarily racial segregation within a community. They've started busing kids to 'sink' schools because the middle classes have nabbed all the places at the schools near where they live. There was a documentary a couple of years ago - might have been John Humphries fronting it - where this was happening at a school in Wimbledon.


They get the privilege of being allowed to live and to earn and to be taxed rather than annually expropriated of all but a worker's wage. What more do the cunts want? ;)
They get a fuck of a lot more than that. They get a criminal 'justice' system to protect their property, healthy workers educated and trained at no cost to themselves, access to a sophisticated and expensive communications and transport infrastructure and if they ever get seriously ill they'd be off their fucking nut to use a private healthcare provider - their outcomes are appalling compared to the NHS.

If they object to paying tax on the grounds that they don't get much back from the state, they need to explain why they're not setting themselves up in Somalia. Stupid ignorant cunts.


Of course, it's still entry level for posh lawyers, brokers and mandarins ...
Mandarins are civil servants. Have you seen the civil service pay-scale? I started out on a civil service pay grade as a graduate and didn't earn enough to have to pay back my student loan for ten years of continuous employment.

Yeah there are a few fuckers taking the piss at the top, but they are not entry level. Cameron sent Will Hutton off to do a high pay review a couple of years ago with the aim of setting a maximum public sector wage of 20x the lowest pay in each dept. The project was quietly buried when Hutton failed to find any ratios higher than 19 (some universities). The ratio in Whitehall was 10.

That public sector pay bullshit is more divide and rule. Please erase the information from your brain. :)


That's the dominance of the City in the economy. I mean, once upon a time, people made things in the UK. An awful lot of them were made in Birmingham.
It's even worse than that.

Rich people ‘invest’ (aka save) their money in property and other pre-existing assets which create no new wealth, but do create bubbles in those assets. This raises prices for everyone (especially housing) without adding anything to the economy. Worse, it destabilises the economy and takes money away from productive activity because so much of our national income ends up going to unproductive rentiers, whilst the talent gets wasted shuffling useless bits of paper around in tax efficient ways. It's not just a shift in economic activity - it's actively harmful (in aggregate, not just for an unfortunate and powerless few)..
 
And apologies for being too harsh Manter - but I know where newbie is coming from. It's really fucking annoying when very highly paid people have no clue as to the reality they're living in. Not aimed at you so much as people like this and this.
 
Of course it's more than words on a screen. Posting on a bulletin board is like having a written conversation; not simply akin to reading an impersonal article.

none the less it's not the real world, there are no significant consequences and at any time any participant can just click away.
 
Mandarins are civil servants. Have you seen the civil service pay-scale? I started out on a civil service pay grade as a graduate and didn't earn enough to have to pay back my student loan for ten years of continuous employment.

Yeah there are a few fuckers taking the piss at the top, but they are not entry level. Cameron sent Will Hutton off to do a high pay review a couple of years ago with the aim of setting a maximum public sector wage of 20x the lowest pay in each dept. The project was quietly buried when Hutton failed to find any ratios higher than 19 (some universities). The ratio in Whitehall was 10.

That public sector pay bullshit is more divide and rule. Please erase the information from your brain. :)

fair do's
 
none the less it's not the real world, there are no significant consequences and at any time any participant can just click away.
Of course it's the real world, which doesn't cease to exist outwith face to face communication. You do not know the consequences anymore than you would if you took that approach with someone you newly met in the pub.
 
Is it that difficult to understand that people are moving to Brixton because it (was) affordable and has great transport links? It's not just Brixton, it's Streatham too. Should everyone read these forums first and then make an informed decision? No, they're going by all the positive press the place has received over the last 5 or so years...

Sure, it sucks for some people but don't fucking attack people because they're trying to settle somewhere they can afford... Look at the root causes....
I didn't and I haven't. I read her posts and commented on them. You're welcome to tear my posts to shreds if you don't like them. Or indeed if you think I'm fronting myself as the face of a particularly disagreeable social trend, the precise subject of a thread.
 
Sorry ymu! I was only meaning the stats....


So on the one hand manter should shut up because she 'made someone cry' but newbie can say what he wants because its not real and we can just click away. Just so we're clear.
 
Of course it's the real world, which doesn't cease to exist outwith face to face communication. You do not know the consequences anymore than you would if you took that approach with someone you newly met in the pub.
so what are you suggesting? that when offence is taken to a bunch of posts and the attitudes being expressed within them, that no response should be made? Just in case, you know, offence is taken?
 
Sorry ymu! I was only meaning the stats....


So on the one hand manter should shut up because she 'made someone cry' but newbie can say what he wants because its not real and we can just click away. Just so we're clear.
Who did I make cry? I am behind....
 
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