Professionals send Brixton property prices surging by 15%

[ViolentPanda]

Also something feligolightly has also failed to learn from history is that a house that now contains a couple, maybe with one child, housed more and bigger families so what is now a family home often housed three large families. Look at the censuses from then. They're all online. There have even been accessible TV programmes featuring this kind of information.

Yup. As I said on another thread recently (or maybe it was this one, these gentrificationy threads all blur together after a while!), and replacement housing hasn't been forthcoming in anything like the necessary quantity.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The rich moved to the poorer areas to make it easier for the poor to wipe the arses of the rich. Not as much transport then

Look at the development of any new "suburb" from the Regency onward, and ther have always been mews and terraces to house the necessary labour (i.e. the necessary service sector rather than the "live-ins"). Of course, mews houses and "worker's terraces" are nowadays actually "must have" accommodation for some trendy try-hards, like "lofts" (pah!) were 10 and 20 years ago.

 

[Greebo]

He certainly was a gouty peglegged old cunt.

Had he enjoyed perfect health IMHO S would have been equally grasping, exploitative, and obnoxious.

Just hire Capita to manage the proceeds, then!

I don't doubt Crapita's ability to make money disappear, but surely there's a more enjoyable way to achieve the same end?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Brixton is getting turds from all over the place now
A lot of us are getting them from a great height

Which is why I regularly thank fuck for our little council tenement. At least our rent is somewhat more stable than if our landlord was an HA, whatever else happens.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Had he enjoyed perfect health IMHO S would have been equally grasping, exploitative, and obnoxious.

True. Cuntitude will out.

I don't doubt Crapita's ability to make money disappear, but surely there's a more enjoyable way to achieve the same end?

Well, could always spend some on drugs, some on loose living, and then waste the rest, I suppose!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Look at the development of any new "suburb" from the Regency onward, and ther have always been mews and terraces to house the necessary labour (i.e. the necessary service sector rather than the "live-ins"). Of course, mews houses and "worker's terraces" are nowadays actually "must have" accommodation for some trendy try-hards, like "lofts" (pah!) were 10 and 20 years ago.

and do you see any poor people living in mews nowadays? They're only for the rich rich now. Yuppies probably aspire to live in a mews, but can't quite manage it so go for the warehouse/pub conversions etc.

Warehouses are preferable though as it makes them think they're living in trendy New York

 

[ViolentPanda]

or just selfish

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sentimental like that.

 

[ViolentPanda]

the poster is a massive bellend.

As opposed to the poster having a massive bellend, obviously.

 

[Greebo]

Which is why I regularly thank fuck for our little council tenement. At least our rent is somewhat more stable than if our landlord was an HA, whatever else happens.

Oi, Panda, this isn't a fucking tenement! It's a flat.

Tenement flats don't have their own front door (ie with a letter box).

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Oi, Panda, this isn't a fucking tenement! It's a flat.

Tenement flats don't have their own front door (ie with a letter box).

I've never heard anyone call estates tenements (except in Scotland I think)

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Which is why I regularly thank fuck for our little council tenement. At least our rent is somewhat more stable than if our landlord was an HA, whatever else happens.

We gave up a council tenement for a HA place so we could have a guide dog. The rent has really shot up over the last 10 years.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I've never heard anyone call estates tenements (except in Scotland I think)

It's catching

 

[ViolentPanda]

What about pasties?

Those things that Gypsy Rose Lee wore over her nips?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

You can't have a council flat and a guide dog?

 

[Mrs Magpie]

No, the Greggs kind

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's catching

I noticed

 

[Mrs Magpie]

You can't have a council flat and a guide dog?

Th GDBA said it wasn't good enough for the dog so we waited 5 years on the emergency housing list (would have been a lot quicker but for Lambeth being shite on a stick).

 

[Greebo]

I've never heard anyone call estates tenements (except in Scotland I think)

FWIW the bits over the shops on Streatham High Rd are tenements in the proper sense of the word.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Th GDBA said it wasn't good enough for the dog so we waited 5 years on the emergency housing list (would have been a lot quicker but for Lambeth being shite on a stick).

Yeah, i think they offered me a flat well over a year after I applied. I turned it down

 

[Mrs Magpie]

We got an offer before this place, but it didn't fulfil the GDBAs criteria and we also would have had to decant all the children into a single boxroom.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Lambeth didn't fulfil my criteria of no estates or tower blocks

 

[ViolentPanda]

and do you see any poor people living in mews nowadays? They're only for the rich rich now.

That's kind of my point - that the working class have been pushed out of their traditional locales, and not by the usual currents of social change, but by a current that has pretty much been inflated and kept alive through 30-odd years of (negative for the majority of people) housing policy.

Yuppies probably aspire to live in a mews, but can't quite manage it so go for the warehouse/pub conversions etc.

Warehouses are preferable though as it makes them think they're living in trendy New York

Why someone would want to delude themselves that they were living in a giant rubbish dump cum former swamp is beyond me.[/quote][/quote]

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oi, Panda, this isn't a fucking tenement! It's a flat.

Tenement flats don't have their own front door (ie with a letter box).

Bloody pedant!

 

[Greebo]

Bloody pedant!

And look where my pedantry has got you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

And look where my pedantry has got you.

On my knees and in the wrong, usually.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oi, Panda, this isn't a fucking tenement! It's a flat.

Tenement flats don't have their own front door (ie with a letter box).

i've seen tenement places round the elephant that do.

 

[tufty79]

i've seen tenement places round the elephant that do.

are you thinking pullens buildings (off walworth road)?

e2a except that's having no front door for the communal entrance, and i guess letterboxes for each flat. @self

 

[Pickman's model]

are you thinking pullens buildings (off walworth road)?

e2a except that's having no front door for the communal entrance, and i guess letterboxes for each flat. @self

yeh those look right, round amelia street i think. they were described to me as tenements when i first visited them.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Mansion flats (eg Rushcroft Road) are the same but with doors.

 

[quimcunx]

FWIW the bits over the shops on Streatham High Rd are tenements in the proper sense of the word.

What's the proper sense of the word? All tenements I've been in have had their own front door same as any flat.