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Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

editor said:
I really sincerely hope they managed to avoid getting another entrepreneur-stuffed, "occasional treat"-dispensing, East London-developer-partnered, trendy and unaffordable "business park for the 21st century" on their doorsteps.
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LJ Works is a bit different has it has GLA funding, 25 year life and is on a site zoned for industry ( so no permanent eateries). But I share concerns with people on the estate. They want something with proper training opportunities with proper qualifications at end . At moment looks like Tree Shepherd running courses for single parents to try out "foodie" ideas and become "entrepreneural". Which at meetings they have been critical. This isn't providing opportunities to progress to secure well paid work. As residents on estate say , not real qualifications. ( It's also imo about the working class learning to provide services for the well off. The new service class.)
 
Gramsci said:
LJ Works is a bit different has it has GLA funding, 25 year life and is on a site zoned for industry ( so no permanent eateries). But I share concerns with people on the estate. They want something with proper training opportunities with proper qualifications at end . At moment looks like Tree Shepherd running courses for single parents to try out "foodie" ideas and become "entrepreneural". Which at meetings they have been critical. This isn't providing opportunities to progress to secure well paid work. As residents on estate say , not real qualifications. ( It's also imo about the working class learning to provide services for the well off. The new service class.)
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I've been criticising Lambeth for years regarding the transitory nature of most of the work and training "opportunities" the provide or sponsor. Part of their spiel on estate "regeneration" is that jobs opportunities will be provided, but - interestingly, at least to me - they can't show, with regard to any of their current schemes, even Somerleyton, that such opportunities will extend much past the completion of development. To me too much of it is premised on the developers funding training and providing jobs as a tick on their "corporate social responsibility" boxes, with no real interest beyond that, and the council see this as a good sop to anti-regeneration public sentiment: "Look, we're creating jobs! Don't you want jobs?".
 
ViolentPanda said:
I've been criticising Lambeth for years regarding the transitory nature of most of the work and training "opportunities" the provide or sponsor. Part of their spiel on estate "regeneration" is that jobs opportunities will be provided, but - interestingly, at least to me - they can't show, with regard to any of their current schemes, even Somerleyton, that such opportunities will extend much past the completion of development. To me too much of it is premised on the developers funding training and providing jobs as a tick on their "corporate social responsibility" boxes, with no real interest beyond that, and the council see this as a good sop to anti-regeneration public sentiment: "Look, we're creating jobs! Don't you want jobs?".
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In the LJ Works project the architects were hoping to have a scheme where locals could be involved in learning skills in design and build as part of the project. This was used to sell the project to locals. Now this won't happen as we are know told the funding won't stretch that far. Instead they will be encouraging contractors who will build the project to take on local labour and do training. People's expectations are raised then we are told this is as good as it gets.

This has parralels with the meanwhile use of the Pop site. People expectations are raised when consultation is done. Then it doesn't quite turn out that way.

Yet Council still say it's a success. Rather than looking at it objectively and seeing what bits worked and what didn't.

Listened to a radio programme tonight on business and the state. New Labour accepted the Thatcherite neo liberalism. With the caveat that they should persuade business to be socially responsible. Sadiq Khan was mentioned on the programme as he is taking the same line.

Imo it doesn't work. Whatever the pros and cons of Pop business such as Network Rail don't have to sign up to this model. It's where the New Labour project falls down. Cajoling Capitalism to behave better isn't going to happen.

Pop is stand alone project. It's not going to be a model that can be replicated elsewhere.
 
Great to see Pop Brixton sticking to its community-focused brief, and what could be more relevant to the local community than a corporate VR Major League Baseball event, based around Boston taking on L.A.?

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June, London: Ahead of its huge July 4th party in Hyde Park, Major League Baseball is partnering with POP Brixton to showcase the best of Boston and Los Angeles through food, drink, music and tech from the 30th June – 1st July.

For one weekend only, open 12pm – 11pm, visitors to MLB’s POP Brixton ‘culture clash’ can take part in a world-exclusive VR baseball experience, where they will pick a side – Boston or L.A. – and play to win. Prizes will be on offer to the players who hit the most home runs.

Visitors will have the opportunity to be the first to play the cutting-edge VR game while indulging in a selection of the finest street food, with eateries serving up dishes inspired by the culture of the two cities, including Mama’s Jerk, Made of Dough, Zoe’s Ghana Kitchen and Duck Duck Goose. DJs including Tim Parker, Skinny Girl Diet, Anthony Chalmers and Tom Furse will also be on hand playing sounds of the cities across the two days.

MLB Battlegrounds, presented by Altec Lansing, culminates with a Home Run Derby on July 4th at Barclaycard presents British Summer Time in Hyde Park. From 5pm, the evening’s proceedings will see two of MLB’s most popular teams, the Boston Red Sox and L.A. Dodgers, going head-to-head in an accelerated, big-hitting format of the game never seen before in Europe. This all-star ‘Home Run Derby’ will see some of MLB’s biggest former hitters and England cricket stars Jos Buttler and Alex Hales battle it out to hit the most home runs against the clock.

Alongside the sporting spectacle, ‘MLB Battlegrounds’ will offer fans authentic street food, as well as bringing the music of Boston and L.A. to the July 4th celebrations, just days after North American stars Justin Bieber and Green Day headline the Hyde Park Main Stage.

“The Pop Brixton and July 4th events represent an exciting statement of intent to grow Major League Baseball in Europe. The two events will bring not only the flavour of our games to London, but also the spirit of two of our most popular team’s cities – the Boston Red Sox and LA Dodgers. We’re sure both events will be a big hit for fans old and new” said Charlie Hill, Managing Director of MLB Europe.

Everyone can attend the free event – for more information, please visit www.mlb.com/battlegrounds, @MLBUK on Facebook or head to @mlb_ukonTwitter and Instagram.
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editor said:
Great to see Pop Brixton sticking to its community-focused brief, and what could be more relevant to the local community than a corporate VR Major League Baseball event, based around Boston taking on L.A.?

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I was in there grabbing lunch this afternoon and, to my surprise, saw shed loads of Evelyn Grace Academy kids in there using it. So actually I would say it was engaging perfectly!
 
djdando said:
I was in there grabbing lunch this afternoon and, to my surprise, saw shed loads of Evelyn Grace Academy kids in there using it. So actually I would say it was engaging perfectly!
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I didn't say there was no engagement but it's a far cry from the community based offering we were promised. How the fuck Shoreditch mega-capitalist property developers The Collective came to grab a large chunk of the project site is anyone's guess. Here's what they're up to elsewhere:

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Second luxury commune gets the green light in Stratford

Listen to this babble:
Reza Merchant, chief executive of The Collective, said: “London is at the forefront of the global co-living revolution, with significant demand for this new way of living. Co-living offers community-centric experiences and access to an enviable range of spaces and curated events.
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On a related note, I'm hearing a lot about local residents getting REALLY pissed off about the noise from all the club events taking part in the 'green oasis.'
 
I am a local resident. They popped something in my letter box giving an emergency number to call if I had concerns about noise. TBH if you live in the centre of Brixton you've got to accept it. Also, by far the loudest noise comes from the blokes blaring reggae from the Function One sound system in their boot on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday night. If you don't like the noise, move to Orpington.
 
djdando said:
I am a local resident. They popped something in my letter box giving an emergency number to call if I had concerns about noise. TBH if you live in the centre of Brixton you've got to accept it. Also, by far the loudest noise comes from the blokes blaring reggae from the Function One sound system in their boot on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday night. If you don't like the noise, move to Orpington.
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That's not really how it works though. I've never made a noise complaint in all the time I've been here. If people move into a noisy area then they have no right to complain about the existing noise, IMO.

But if something new starts up and begins to make a fucking racket all night long, then local residents have every right to complain. Why should they have to put up with it?

And how dare you dismiss them out of hand and tell them they should push off to Orpington. They were here long before the DJs and hipsters turned up the volume in Pop, so if anyone should do the moving, it should be the people disturbing the existing community and not the families and long term residents living nearby.
 
djdando said:
I am a local resident. They popped something in my letter box giving an emergency number to call if I had concerns about noise. TBH if you live in the centre of Brixton you've got to accept it. Also, by far the loudest noise comes from the blokes blaring reggae from the Function One sound system in their boot on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday night. If you don't like the noise, move to Orpington.
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That part of Brixton was not in the centre of what is now the entertainment zone. Before Pop it was a car park. Nearby is the Brixton Rec. The estate by Pop was there years before Pop came on the scene. To say that people shouldn't move to areas where historically there have been bars and clubs for years is one thing this is not the case here.
 
All new establishments should be quiet. In fact no music at new establishments. No drinking or talking would be preferable.
 
blameless77 said:
Oh really- 'persil', just what are you implying?
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I don't believe he's implying anything. It's pretty obvious from the picture that the queue is comprised of white people in a greater proportion than the local demographic. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the original intention, but it's certainly been the reality of Pop Brixton. Personally I don't see that as a good thing. Apart from anything else, it makes locals feel self-conscious about the place. Such queues signify "this isn't for the likes of you, indigenous Brixtonites".

(awaits the usual suspects and their bleating)
 
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After seeing this thread bump we've decided to head to Brixton this evening for a walk around and get dinner at Pop #tourist
 
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