Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

[Nanker Phelge]

It's still on the event page: 1 YEAR HERE: Pop Feast Birthday Supperclub Pop Brixton London | DesignMyNight

Here's another pic being used on that site to promote the event.....it's not much better, but there is a little more diversity in there....

I love it that people are sat there in their outdoor coats to eat dinner....how much fun is that?

 

[editor]

I love it that people are sat there in their outdoor coats to eat dinner....how much fun is that?

£47.50s worth of fun for all the community!

 

[editor]

There's also a distinction to be made between sneering at Pop for choosing such a crass photo and sneering at the people who happened to be in the photo and gave (most likely) implicit permission to be used in promotional material just because they thought a decent feed and some comedy sounded like a good night out.

Not really sure who's "sneering" at the people. I'm more interested in challenging Pop for charging such a fucking huge sum for the local community to celebrate what is supposed to be a "community" venture, and illustrating the event with a homogeneous photo that has zero diversity and would appear to send out a clear message about who the event is 'for.'

 

[discobastard]

Not really sure who's "sneering" at the people. I'm more interested in challenging Pop for charging such a fucking huge sum for the local community to celebrate what is supposed to be a "community" venture, and illustrating the event with a homogeneous photo that has zero diversity and would appear to send out a clear message about who the event is 'for.'

That was pretty much my point, yes.

 

[ViolentPanda]

God that looks like a casting call for a remake of Notting Hill but this time around it will be called.....

...Nothing Hill?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not particularly nice of you to have such a clear shot of those guys who are obviously having a good time, judging them from it and inviting everyone else on the boards to do so too.

...and?

Are you really naive enough to believe that everybody doesn't do the same in terms of judging?

Besides, if one only takes one fact from the picture, it's that although the event advertised will take place in Brixton, the advertiser is implicitly communicating* who the event is for, and it's not for regular Brixtonians, some of whom happen to not be white like every bugger in that picture.

*It's called semiology, or semiotics if you're a sociology grad. Signs, what they say, and what they mean.

 

[SpamMisery]

What are the terms of an enforced ignore? Its not in the faq

 

[Nanker Phelge]

...Nothing Hill?

Notting Hell

 

[Nanker Phelge]

What are the terms of an enforced ignore? Its not in the faq

Which bit of this bypassed you?

Anyone wishing to discuss this is advised to take the matter to the Feedback forum as it won't be discussed here.

 

[SpamMisery]

I was asking if someone had a link to where the terms are stated. I assumed somewhere on the help pages

 

[leanderman]

The Pop Brixton picture is not unlike the home page image used by this nearby pub.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

The Pop Brixton picture is not unlike the home page image used by this nearby pub.

indeed

 

[ddraig]

Not particularly nice of you to have such a clear shot of those guys who are obviously having a good time, judging them from it and inviting everyone else on the boards to do so too.

which one are you in the picture?

 

[Lucy Fur]

eta, cant be arsed actually

 

[editor]

The Pop Brixton picture is not unlike the home page image used by this nearby pub.

Except that photo doesn't show anyone in the Prince Albert pub - it's a generic Greene King shot taken somewhere else. And the pub wasn't set up by Lambeth as a supposed community venture. And they're not charging £47.50 for entry.

But apart from that, exactly the same.

 

[SpamMisery]

The Pop Brixton picture is not unlike the home page image used by this nearby pub.

Cant see anything wrong with it myself. It'll just be how they want to represent the pub and the clientèle they hope to attract

 

[Nanker Phelge]

That design my night website is not operated by POP though is it? The pictures are from Pop, but they are not the images Pop are using to promote said event.

I'm not sure the Albert page is any less misrepresentative, regardless of it being a generic Greene King page.

If anything the Greene King page offends me more than the Design My Night one...

 

[T & P]

I personally don't like to try to read too much into any alleged demographics or agendas behind promotional photographs. One website has used actual, non-staged images of a past meeting of the event in question, the other has used a stock image posed by models. There are bad things that could be said about both approaches if one is determined to go down that road, but there is seldom anything sinister behind them, certainly not, IMO, in the cases of Pop and The Albert here.

 

[editor]

That design my night website is not operated by POP though is it? The pictures are from Pop, but they are not the images Pop are using to promote said event.

The event is run by Pop Brixton. It's being used to sell tickets for their event. It's directly linked from their own site as the only place where you can buy tickets. Who do you think supplied the image?

If anything the Greene King page offends me more than the Design My Night one...

It's a shit generic corporate image. Not sure why it should offend you as I doubt if many people bother looking at it and the pub has absolutely nothing to do with the image. It wasn't taken in the pub and is not being put forward to promote an exclusive £50 event.

 

[editor]

I personally don't like to try to read too much into any alleged demographics or agendas behind promotional photographs. One website has used actual, non-staged images of a past meeting of the event in question, the other has used a stock image posed by models. There are bad things that could be said about both approaches if one is determined to go down that road, but there is seldom anything sinister behind them, certainly not, IMO, in the cases of Pop and The Albert here.

Makes you wonder why the Albert was brought up in the first place seeing as this thread is about Pop Brixton which is an entirely different proposition to one individual commercial pub. The Albert wasn't set up by the council to be a "community project" neither does it claim to be "committed to supporting the local community" like Pop does. There's no logical reason to bring it into this discussion....

Oh, wait. It's because I drink there, so it's being brought up as a way to discredit my argument and disrupt the discussion, despite the two places being entirely different propositions with just about nothing in common.

Sigh. It's all getting so fucking predictable and pathetic these days, but at least it's evidence of the sheer desperation of the counter-arguments. How about addressing the issue of a self styled community project in a poor area demanding nearly fifty quid for their birthday event, with their site exclusively linking to a ticket page showing just one image showing an extremely narrow and unrepresentative demographic?

Can you do that without introducing further distractions?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

The event is run by Pop Brixton. It's being used to sell tickets for their event. It's directly linked from their own site as the only place where you can buy tickets. Who do you think supplied the image?
It's a shit generic corporate image. Not sure why it should offend you as I doubt if many people bother looking at it and the pub has absolutely nothing to do with the image. It wasn't taken in the pub and is not being put forward to promote an exclusive £50 event.

In short the Pop one is completely representative, and exactly what I'd expect from the them.

The Albert one is not at all representative and I find it it disappointing that one of the Brixton venues that still has half an ounce of character left should have such a bland and generic website.

What they are promoting or not promoting doesn't impact my thoughts about how both are visually represented.

ETA: I'm not sure what The Albert is about these days, given that they now offer a £10 dirty burger, and a Porn Star Martini.

 

[editor]

In short the Pop one is completely representative, and exactly what I'd expect from the them.

The Albert one is not at all representative and I find it it disappointing that one of the Brixton venues that still has half an ounce of character left should have such a bland and generic website.

The point you seem unable to grasp is that the Albert has nothing to do with the picture on the corporate website neither do they have any control over the site. It's run by Greene King.
This is the website run by the Albert's landlord: Facebook

ETA: I'm not sure what The Albert is about these days, given that they now offer a £10 dirty burger, and a Porn Star Martini.

I'm not sure why we're even discussing the Albert as it has zero relevance to the Lambeth-backed, self styled 'community project' at Pop.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

The point you seem unable to grasp is that the Albert has nothing to do with the picture on the corporate website

I absolutely understand that, and it is that which I find disappointing. I think the 'corporate' website lets the Albert down by not demonstrating any of it's character. Which is why it bothers me more than the POP image.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I'm not sure why we're even discussing the Albert as it has zero relevance to the Lambeth-backed, self styled 'community project' at Pop.

comparing and contrasting other local businesses and their products and the way they present themselves has been a part of this thread since it started, and has been done by most posters who have contributed to this thread. You may find it it has no relevance to the wider discussions around Pop, but I do.

 

[editor]

I absolutely understand that, and it is that which I find disappointing. I think the 'corporate' website lets the Albert down by not demonstrating any of it's character. Which is why it bothers me more than the POP image.

Yes, it's shit. But it doesn't really matter because most people who go to the Albert don't bother looking at such crap sites and the pub still attracts a mixed crowd. And the pub's proper website represents the place pretty well.

But all this has got precisely nothing to do with a "community project" that is supposedly "committed to supporting the local community" advertising an unaffordable event showing an extremely narrow demographic with zero diversity. That is the point.

The Albert was only brought up as a cheap shot to have a go at me and unfortunately you've decided to run with it.

 

[SpamMisery]

Porn Star Martini?!!

 

[Nanker Phelge]

The Albert was only brought up as a cheap shot to have a go at me and unfortunately you've decided to run with it.

I'm not running with anything other than the points I've raised. I'm certainly not supporting 'cheap shots' unless they are of the alcoholic kind...

 

[Nanker Phelge]

So Pop Fields is opening 10th June, just in time for all the summer sports events....

Pop Brixton

If you have enough dough you can hire it out for a private event.....

 

[editor]

So Pop Fields is opening 10th June, just in time for all the summer sports events....

Pop Brixton

If you have enough dough you can hire it out for a private event.....

So plan to spend your summer at Pop Fields watching sport in the sunshine, with the best kind of refreshments supplied by our restaurants, bars and street food traders

If they're going to put on the Euro 2016 games that may well have hit some of the local pubs hard - they often rely on the cash that big tournaments bring in. It almost feels like they're dancing on the ghost of the Canterbury Arms on which they now stand

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Yes, it is a bitter irony.