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. Arthur still wound as as tight as a drum and Thomas till as cool as forty seven cucumbers.
interesting bit when arthur was losing it and tommy calmed him down by talking to him like a soldier. The war that lurks in the background of this show, some of them never really left the trenches etc
 
ayo in the first series I noticed when they went to the Cheltenham races the band was playing "hot jazz"... been as this was barely just being invented in the US at the time (1919) I think it is very unlikely a function band a race track would have been playing this style of music in Cheltenham. danny la rouge would know more though.
The first jazz records were recorded in 1917. They made it across the pond pretty quickly. The ODJB played in the UK in 1919. Sidney Bechet played London the same year.
 
Did they play at Cheltenham racetrack?
I've never seen the program in question. And I don't know where Cheltenham is. So I'm not any help to you on either count.

However, if the question is "were there jazz bands in the UK in 1919?", the answer is: "yes, American ones".

If the question is "would they have played any gig offered?" The answer is "Yes, they would".

If the question is "would a provincial British band at the time have been playing authentic 'hot jazz'?" The answer is "no. Ragtime, yes. Jazz-influenced 'sweet' dance music, yes. But 'hot jazz', most likely not".
 
While not as good as I had hoped it was good. Really suprised when the veil came up and it was Grace he married. I thought she has fecked off to America. What happened to posh totty May? 10 minutes in and I was still thinking it was going to flip, like that was a dream he was having.
 
While not as good as I had hoped it was good. Really suprised when the veil came up and it was Grace he married. I thought she has fecked off to America. What happened to posh totty May? 10 minutes in and I was still thinking it was going to flip, like that was a dream he was having.
It's all a dream he's having in the First World War mines as he slowly suffocates.
 
Really suprised when the veil came up and it was Grace he married.
I was also suprised. I think that was done on purpose. Bit annoyed that they seem to be dropping anything other than the most superficial social history in service of the plot. This was a time when labour agiation was as rife and troublesome as it has ever been and yet its all been written out in favour of Ada the once-commie who is now basically edging towards fabianism
 
I was also suprised. I think that was done on purpose. Bit annoyed that they seem to be dropping anything other than the most superficial social history in service of the plot. This was a time when labour agiation was as rife and troublesome as it has ever been and yet its all been written out in favour of Ada the once-commie who is now basically edging towards fabianism

I haven't watched the ep yet (so really shouldn't be reading this thread) but is it such a stretch of imagination that some people move away from their political beliefs?
 
I haven't watched the ep yet (so really shouldn't be reading this thread) but is it such a stretch of imagination that some people move away from their political beliefs?
not at all, its not just on character level is what I mean. This period saw an immense amount of social and labour conflicts etc and yet its being written aside to be basically what the OP said- a brummie Boardwalk Empire

I'll still watch though, that angelic cillian has me in his thrall
 
not at all, its not just on character level is what I mean. This period saw an immense amount of social and labour conflicts etc and yet its being written aside to be basically what the OP said- a brummie Boardwalk Empire

I'll still watch though, that angelic cillian has me in his thrall

I know what you mean. Have you seen him in Breakfast on Pluto?

If you like that kind of conflict; I recommend an Alan Bleasdale drama from the 80s - The Monocled Mutineer - true story of Percy Topliss who was involved in the mutinies during WW1. I remember it drove the tories beserk back then and the Daily Heil was frothing at the mouth...
 
I know what you mean. Have you seen him in Breakfast on Pluto?

If you like that kind of conflict; I recommend an Alan Bleasdale drama from the 80s - The Monocled Mutineer - true story of Percy Topliss who was involved in the mutinies during WW1. I remember it drove the tories beserk back then and the Daily Heil was frothing at the mouth...

Another vote here for The Monocled Mutineer with Paul McGann as our eponymous hero. The trailer is here:

 
Do you know something? I don't give a rats arse if the accents aren't quite right or the music is a bit out historically or even if someone changes their sodding politics. The writing is great, the acting is great and we got Tommy Shelby naked in the first episode:thumbs:.

It's a grand bit of telly.
 
Do you know something? I don't give a rats arse if the accents aren't quite right or the music is a bit out historically or even if someone changes their sodding politics. The writing is great, the acting is great and we got Tommy Shelby naked in the first episode:thumbs:.

It's a grand bit of telly.
yeah he can't just have an angel face he has to have greek sculpture da vinci diagram glutes as well. I'm falling badly out of love with him for taking white russian money though
 
Bored of it now, they're going to have some fights, some marital problems, the annoying soundtrack will be much louder than the dialogue, the end.
 
just finished season 2, it was proper terrible like a bad soap opera done by that guy who married madonna for the last half.
 
Im with you there. I still dont understand how she ended back in it. Still not explained when she left the US and what happened to to Tommys other squeeze ( posh May).

It's maybe bad but my genuine reaction to the ending was hope that we wouldn't have to tolerate any more bloody insipid Grace.
 
so we're all happy that Grace is no longer, yes?

sadly, the new love interest (if that is indeed what she is), is annoying. very annoying.

i'm enjoying the "Gypsy roots" theme running through this series (esp. with Tommy), its stronger than it was before, but has the overall programme been sexed up a bit too much? has it become faintly ridiculous? Maybe not, i'm still enjoying it, but who exactly is the priest (in relation to both Churchill and the Russians)? can someone explain? I've clearly been paying too much attention to Murphy's cigarette inhaling cheekbones, instead of focusing on the plot...
 
Good question. Im a bit lost now with the Russian/Government thing. I think that the Priest (Paddy Considine) is working for the government because he seems to be in cahoots with the government spook (played by Julius from the Thick of It)
 
I'm sticking with it even though the accents are getting worse.
And how come they were eating Deer on Good Friday? I thought the Shelby's were of Irish Catholic (Gypsy) roots??
 
Russian Crazy Lady is annoying AF.

I'm still watching (and really enjoying ) but it totally has jumped the Boardwalk Empire shark imho. All style and very little content now. Bizarrely the accents have got more accurate to my ear (Polly especially), but everything else about the period, the social norms, and the human feelings has gone in the bin. Without every single minute having to be about Social Studies 101 stuff, I think there's not nearly enough in there about how the Shelbys climb the social ladder - or don't - and what the rest of Birmingham thinks of them - or about how their business actually works and how it interlocks with the rest of the local or national (or international!) economy.

It's also pretty incoherent - not the dialogue but the plotting, it's increasingly hard to figure out wtf's going on and why.

Still, it's lovely to look at, Cillian acts up a storm, nice frocks nice lighting nice filters etc.
 
Im glad its not just me then trabuquera i also sit there thinking what the hell is happening but little pockets of it keep my interest.

As for the accents, Polly and Tommy and some of the other main players, i think we've just got used to them like we would anyone with a Brummy twang. The woman who sat at the table moaning "it aint fair"though, her accent was laughable, way off mark.
 
i'm enjoying the "Gypsy roots" theme running through this series (esp. with Tommy), its stronger than it was before, but has the overall programme been sexed up a bit too much? has it become faintly ridiculous? Maybe not, i'm still enjoying it, but who exactly is the priest (in relation to both Churchill and the Russians)? can someone explain? I've clearly been paying too much attention to Murphy's cigarette inhaling cheekbones, instead of focusing on the plot...

Yeah Im liking the gypsy stuff. Paddy Considine as the priest seriously puts the frighteners on me - great casting there.

dolly's gal - like you I'm a little obsessed by the cheekbones:oops:
 
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