Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, some sort of research chemist if I remember correctly. Don't know what she did later on.
Peaches Geldof is dead, age 25
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bmd
Island in the stream.
Why do people post on this thread to say that they don't know who she was? What are you trying to say? That she wasn't famous enough for you? That there shouldn't be a thread about her death? 
If I posted a thread about the kid down the road from me who died you would say "who?" What is your point? That you don't care? That your world isn't touched by people who die that have achieved a small level of fame? Please, explain.
If I posted a thread about the kid down the road from me who died you would say "who?" What is your point? That you don't care? That your world isn't touched by people who die that have achieved a small level of fame? Please, explain.
maomao
普費斯
I think if Peaches Geldof had died of cancer 30 years from now she wouldn't rate her own thread. I think that people are shocked by someone keeling over at the age of 25.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
Depends what she had done in the intervening 30 years.
bmd
Island in the stream.
[Aren't ="articul8, post: 13052825, member: 17514"]Its sad insofar as its sad when any young woman and mum dies. But we're not talking about someone whose loss will be felt by many in terms of her contribution to public life. Unlike most others who get their own #rip thread in this forum[/QUOTE]
I feel sad about her death precisely because I had a window into her life, much more so than a private citizen.
I feel sad about her death precisely because I had a window into her life, much more so than a private citizen.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
so you knew her personally, or via the media ?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Via the media, she and her family were known to me but I was not known to them.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
We might also feel empathy cos we have also lost others recently and it reminds us of that sadness
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Sure, in my case we recently lost a relative of the same age also with young kids.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
A young friend (34 - young to me even though I'm only six years older) for me. That shock, that suddenness but certainness of a death is hard to get your head around and other deaths make you think about it and make you sympathise with the people who loved them.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Yes, perhaps a stupid thing to observe, but it is hard to comprehend the finality, that "I will never see this person again!"
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
It's not stupid at all. It's very difficult indeed to come to terms with. Can't imagine what it must be like for a family member
cantsin
Well-Known Member
not sure what that second bit means, but, straight question, when you say "I feel similarly about this as I do about anyone else whom I am aware of who is going through a similar situation.", is that anyone else that you "are aware of" of "via the media" ?
If that's the case, that's awful lot of "sadness" for you to deal with ?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I think cantsin you are over complicating things.
Someone I knew personally died young recently, with young children. It was very sad. Peaches Geldof has died in seemingly similar circumstances and I can easily empathise. Both are very sad situations.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Deaths are reported every day in the newspaper. Do you not feel sadness reading about them?
cantsin
Well-Known Member
Obviously, those deaths are reported every day as part of the continual battle to sell papers/engage eyeballs,and feels to me like a long way from the reality of a death close to you. My brother died of a v stupid drug overdose at 20, it feels like a long time ago now, but having seen at first hand what that does to a family - the pain/madness/sorrow that never fully goes away - "the sadness " that people on the internet apparently feel when names they read about in the media "very sadly" die seems kinda abstract and hard to relate to tbh.
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Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Well it's not for most people
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Come off it. It can hardly be a coincidence.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
not sure exactly what that means
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Eh? I'm just saying that people are often reminded of their own sadness when reading about others' tribulations too.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
]Eh? I'm just saying that people are often reminded of their own sadness when reading about others' tribulations too.[/QUOTE]
apols, actually edited out the second part pretty quickly after swallowing rising bile.
Am going to vacate this thread for now, I feel like I'm from a different fucking planet or something.
apols, actually edited out the second part pretty quickly after swallowing rising bile.
Am going to vacate this thread for now, I feel like I'm from a different fucking planet or something.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
apols, actually edited out the second part pretty quickly after swallowing rising bile.
Am going to vacate this thread, I feel like I'm from a different fucking planet or something.[/QUOTE]
Listen. I normally couldn't give a fuck about airhead celebrity offspring but reading about a young mother with a familiar face dying and leaving two children, in a family that had already lost two senior members in tragic circumstances, made me feel sad for the family and sad for myself and others who had lost loved ones. Why is that so hard for you to get your head around?
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
Mind you, I find it hard to get around the fact that people are upset cos a man who is famous for driving cars recklessly is in a coma for sliding down a hill recklessly. Horses for courses innit. Our empathy is not limitless - it is curtailed by our own prejudices and assumptions.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
Listen. I normally couldn't give a fuck about airhead celebrity offspring but reading about a young mother with a familiar face dying and leaving two children, in a family that had already lost two senior members in tragic circumstances, made me feel sad for the family and sad for myself and others who had lost loved ones. Why is that so hard for you to get your head around?[/QUOTE]
I was replying to Weltwelt, quizzical about his "sadness" for people he seemed to know, but in fact meant he "knew" them via the media. "Why is it so hard to get your head around " my inability to equate that in any meaningful way with the reality of first hand death of the young in the immediate family ?
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