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Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

Bit Apple like though aint it..?
You think Apple would let a commercial, third party company release a total clone of a forthcoming operating system, and then give them several months to sell it before asking them to stop - and even giving them a grace period?

LOL.
 
Does this sound like Apple - by far one of the most litigious tech companies on the planet - to you?
Even though Teal Technology still does not make any statements regarding the upcoming demise of TealOS, I managed to get my hands on an insider who was willing to give us all a bit of further insight into what really happened.

Cutting a long story short: my initial analysis turned out to be spot-on. There were no “attack lawyers” involved…instead, it was all about future sales opportunities:
Without listing any detailed concerns, Palm politely but firmly asked us to remove it from our site and to stop distributing it. Since we eventually at some point want to develop for the Pre and webOS, we agreed to remove it to preserve the relationship with Palm.
http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/03/28/news-from-tealos/
 

Thing is Palm acting all Apple like is probably a welcome change for their fanbois. It shows they've realised they're running a business that wants to make some serious cash. And this means they'll actually compete properly rather than limping along like some sad old hasbeen!
 
You're trolling, right?

Palm haven't even called in their lawyers.

Eh?? Not at all!

Like I said Palm getting more competent would be welcomed by the fanbois because it'd be an indicator they really do have the balls to run the company properly rather than limp on like an aging rock star using his back catalogue as justification for still being noteworthy...
 
Eh?? Not at all!

Like I said Palm getting more competent would be welcomed by the fanbois because it'd be an indicator they really do have the balls to run the company properly rather than limp on like an aging rock star using his back catalogue as justification for still being noteworthy...
I've really no idea what you're on about.
 
More rumours about a release date for the Pre (in the US). Based on tweets from an alleged beta-tester, so quite possibly closer to the truth than any of the previous rumours.

Thursday 30th April.

If that is true the then there is a real chance that it might actually arrive over here this year. If they waited till the last moment, i'd have some doubts that Palm could make enough for the US and Europe. How long did the Centro take to appear here?
 
If that is true the then there is a real chance that it might actually arrive over here this year. If they waited till the last moment, i'd have some doubts that Palm could make enough for the US and Europe. How long did the Centro take to appear here?

Not likely to be real since this would be the last beta test the guy ("twitterer" :rolleyes: ) would be on...
 
Eh?? Not at all!

Like I said Palm getting more competent would be welcomed by the fanbois because it'd be an indicator they really do have the balls to run the company properly rather than limp on like an aging rock star using his back catalogue as justification for still being noteworthy...

Heh... Palm finally getting their shit together... Would be good to see... :D
 
I've really no idea what you're on about.
He's saying:

If palm were on the way out, then they'd not have the will to bother with things like this. Their willingness to clamp down on this project indicates a company in goog health.

Personally, I think being able to develop the Pre and its OS is a better indication.
 
He's saying:

If palm were on the way out, then they'd not have the will to bother with things like this. Their willingness to clamp down on this project indicates a company in goog health.
That logic doesn't exactly hold true when it comes to Apple though, does it? They're raking cash in hand over fist and are still one of the most litigious tech companies on the planet.
 
That's exactly the point :confused:

Broken company on its way out: Won't bother enforcing its IP rights.

Strong company: Will bother

It's a simple argument, although not a very strong one. Actual company performance is a better indicator.
 
That's exactly the point :confused:

Broken company on its way out: Won't bother enforcing its IP rights.

Strong company: Will bother

It's a simple argument, although not a very strong one.
It's simple argument alright, but sadly it doesn't bear much relation to reality.

With a copyright infringement as blatant as this one, even the most troubled company would have been quick to get the lawyers in and banked some much-needed funds.
 
That's not quite how the TealOS guys said it but there you go...

Anyway, moving on from that dead end...

It seems the April 30th (I call bullshit, and still stick to my previous view of June at the earliest for launch) launch story is still going...
 
Interesting speculation on WebOS coming to a netbook...

Mark Spoonauer of Laptop Magazine has written up an interesting article in which he gives 5 reasons why Palm's WebOS could shake up the netbook world.


Netbooks have been popping out all over the place lately. The Asus Eee PC sold like hotcakes and other companies have been putting out netbooks since. I picked up a Dell Mini 9 myself, and I love that little thing. Netbooks are small and lightweight, making them much more portable than the average laptop. I love netbooks but some of them are pretty expensive, depending on the amount of memory and the type of processor you get. I would love to have a netbook running Palm's WebOS.


Spoonauer mentions that WebOS plays nice with ARM processors and links to a Laptop Mag article by Joanna Stern in which she says that an analyst claims that the ARM based processor will take 55% of the netbook market by 2012.


James Kendrick of jkOnTheRun wrote an article in which he talks about Spoonauer's thoughts about netbooks running WebOS. Kendrick agrees and notes that netbooks started with Linux and should work very well with the OS, plus "it's cheaper and generally runs better on less hardware than the Windows OS and is a good fit for the little netbook."


And WebOS has Linux at its core, so netbooks running on WebOS might be a pretty good thing. We know that the Pre is only the first device of many that will be running WebOS, so I'm going to cross my fingers that we might see a netbook from Palm in the future. Apple is rumored to be coming out with a netbook. It would be really interesting to see both Palm and Apple come out with a netbook.


Check out the Laptop Mag and the jkOnTheRun articles as they both have very interesting reasons why WebOS would be good on netbooks. Do you think WebOS on a netbook would be a good thing?
 
Only if they license the os to someone else. Palm have their hands entirely full with the pre right now.
 
Only if they license the os to someone else. Palm have their hands entirely full with the pre right now.
They've gone on record to say that they're currently working on several other handsets besides the Pre.

Considering the way that they kept their massively innovative Pre completely under wraps for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if they had other big surprises up their sleeves. A netbook running webOS? Hell, why not!* Besides, I bet they still want to prove that Foleo point.

(*athough I'm not convinced there's onein the wings right now)
 
They've gone on record to say that they're currently working on several other handsets besides the Pre.

Considering the way that they kept their massively innovative Pre completely under wraps for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if they had other big surprises up their sleeves. A netbook running webOS? Hell, why not!* Besides, I bet they still want to prove that Foleo point .

(*athough I'm not convinced there's onein the wings right now)

It failed because intel produced a low powered x86 chip. Is Palm going to burn a few million dollars at some airfield?
 
It failed because intel produced a low powered x86 chip. Is Palm going to burn a few million dollars at some airfield?
It failed because Palm got cold feet for a variety of reasons. Most of the early reviews were very positive and they were well ahead of the game with the concept of a small netbook concept.
 
It failed because Palm got cold feet for a variety of reasons. Most of the early reviews were very positive and they were well ahead of the game with the concept of a small netbook concept.
But utterly failed to twig that people wanted a computer, not a big keyboard and screen for theirr phone.
 
But utterly failed to twig that people wanted a computer, not a big keyboard and screen for theirr phone.
You can't possibly know that for sure because it didn't get released. It *did* pick up some positive reviews though and although netbooks refined and improved the concept considerably, who knows what apps and innovation may have been around the corner. I would have bought one as there was nothing else like it at the time and it would have been perfect for me for covering news stories.
The Foleo was dropped with good reason, it could have never succeeded given the rise of netbooks.
Happy to end this off topic debate here, but would like to point out that the Foleo happened way before netbooks appeared.
 
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