Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

[g force]

Totally agree.

I think that guy's being a bit of a twat...the 'launch' merely said "this is coming" and had to be timed with CES to start the buzz. The fact people were jizzing themselevs via blogs, twitter etc isn't Pal's problem, it did the job perfectly. That's part of the IT/tech media's problem it constantly wants news to fill its blogs and then gets the hump if they don't get it.

The biggest issue isn't customer perception because as other have noted the maintream consumer has little idea the Pre is coming, there's been no marketing push etc because there's no release date to work to.

However, Palm does need to get its act together because of the money. They're tearing through the cash they raised and in the current economy no supplier will take Palm's word (a company losing shed loads) that the new phone will ease cash flow and enable them to pay for kit needed to build more Pre's.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Good will from the very people that are hyping it up now.

 

[editor]

Interesting update. The Pre's browser looks great and its four times faster than the iPhone's according to this:

As it stands, the best shot you have at a "full" web browsing experiencing is with Apple's iPhone. Granted, Opera Mini ain't half bad, and Fennec (er, Mobile Firefox, holds a lot of promise, but it's hard to argue with the sheer performance numbers associated with Safari. That said, it looks like Cupertino has its work cut out for it upon the release of Palm's Pre. During a recent webcast, viewers were treated to a sneak peek at the Pre loading up Big12Sports.com. Said site is pretty intensive to load, and even on WiFi it takes well over 20 seconds to completely pull up on Apple's darling. The site took around eight seconds to finalize on the Pre, suggesting that it either has a wicked fast browser or caching abilities, both of which we could learn to appreciate. Hit the read link for a peek at the video, because -- you know -- seeing is believing.

http://jkontherun.com/2009/03/12/palm-pre-webcast-tidbit-browser-nearly-4x-faster/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Apparently the Pre's spec sheet has been 'leaked'. No new newness however...getting a little bored of this now, new actual info Palm or release the damn thing!

 

[editor]

Apparently the Pre's spec sheet has been 'leaked'. No new newness however...getting a little bored of this now, new actual info Palm or release the damn thing!

They said "the first half of 2009" and by all accounts they're still on schedule.

 

[Lazy Llama]

It didn't become available today (or yesterday), so that's another rumour squashed.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It didn't become available today (or yesterday), so that's another rumour squashed.

Yeah but who in their right mind believed this thing would be on the shelves before April?

 

[editor]

It's been in London already!

Last Thursday night about 400 people gathered at Shoreditch House in London's trendy East End, to celebrate T3's annual Hot 100 list. Crowned as our number one gadget, the Palm Pre made its first UK appearance after being announced at the Las Vegas trade show CES - and even had its own Palm-hired bodyguard.
http://www.t3.com/news/palm-pre-had...100-party?=38390&cid=OTC-RSS&attr=T3-Main-RSS

Their stocks continue to rise too:

Shares of handset maker Palm Inc. charged up 7.5 percent in premarket trading Friday after an analyst upgraded the company, saying its new operating system has boosted the company's potential to catch up with smartphone industry leaders Apple Inc. and Research in Motion Ltd.

http://www.mobile-tech-today.com/news/Palm-Shares-Leap-on-Upgrade/story.xhtml?story_id=100008D3P3LW

 

[Kid_Eternity]

256mb confirmed ram, Q2 release in the US all good news but for the battery, it's the same as the Centro which is shite...

 

[editor]

256mb confirmed ram, Q2 release in the US all good news but for the battery, it's the same as the Centro which is shite...

True, but it's using a different CPU.

The main specs have been on the Palm site for ages. Where are you getting these new ones?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

BGR via the My Pre twitter feed (would link but posting from my Centro). This is a Sprint road map leak...

 

[Sunray]

Interesting update. The Pre's browser looks great and its four times faster than the iPhone's according to this:
http://jkontherun.com/2009/03/12/palm-pre-webcast-tidbit-browser-nearly-4x-faster/

Thats because it uses the TI OMAP CPU which is based on the ARM Cortex A8 CPU, something that can be run at 800Mhz and has a higher IPC than the ARM11 clocked at a lowly 412Mhz on the iPhone.

Nothing very new, both the Pre and the iPhone browsers are based upon webkit partly developed by Apple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit). I doubt that Palm have done much to the browser.

 

[editor]

Another Pre video here: http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9710/sprint-palm-pre-webinar-videos-posted/

 

[editor]

I've just watched all of that video - and boy is the interface fast. I WANT!

 

[paolo]

You're now commenting on your own posts.

e2a... I've done this myself (on different subjects). Something to self-check.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nice vid, really hope the battery use works out well enough to run the thing properly.

 

[Structaural]

At least you can swap it out if it dies.

 

[Crispy]

At least you can swap it out if it dies.

This presumes the user is organised enough to keep 2 batteries charged....
(I know I'm not)

 

[Kid_Eternity]

This presumes the user is organised enough to keep 2 batteries charged....
(I know I'm not)

Also, I'm trying to bring down the number of things I carry about...

 

[Structaural]

Yeah true, can't say I would, I keep forgetting to charge my extra battery pack.

 

[sumimasen]

The Pre, any release date rumours yet? Can't find any..

 

[editor]

The Pre, any release date rumours yet? Can't find any..

Still the 'first half of 2009'.

 

[sumimasen]

I hope Palm see the sense in releasing it before iPhone v3, I want it bad!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I hope Palm see the sense in releasing it before iPhone v3, I want it bad!

If they don't, they're fucked.

 

[editor]

If they don't, they're fucked.

Why? It still has some great features that the iPhone can't match.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Why? It still has some great features that the iPhone can't match.

In reality the hype will over power any coverage it needs to generate the sales it needs to survive until the end of the year.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Why? It still has some great features that the iPhone can't match.

Doesn't matter. They need to get it out before it get's swamped under a wave of iHype. No matter how good the Pre is, it's not an iPre.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

They're bleeding money, have no real hope to survive other than the Pre to be a success...

 

[sumimasen]

Doesn't matter. They need to get it out before it get's swamped under a wave of iHype. No matter how good the Pre is, it's not an iPre.

Exactly. The Pre looks very exciting, but I don't think I can hold out if they're going to make me wait. I'll just think 'fuck it', and then get the iPhone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I think there's a few people who are gonna make exactly that decision if the Pre slips...