Osama bin Laden killed by US forces in Pakistan

[butchersapron]

There was, however, a big banner behind him saying "Mission Accomplished" while he gave his speech.

Yes, his speech about the Iraq invasion.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Meant to answer your earlier post re. "Bin Laden at sea" - so far, no sign of any outrage from the Muslim street on this, so you could well be right.

Contradictory stories anyway, one source talking about 'buried at sea', others talking about 'following islamic tradition' ...

... which I'm guessing doesn't include bunging him out the window over a nearby ocean, not that there are any nearby oceans really, nearest is probably Arabian Sea about 800 miles away or maybe the Caspian ...

 

[danny la rouge]

Yes, his speech about the Iraq invasion.

It was, yes.

 

[butchersapron]

Contradictory stories anyway, one source talking about 'buried at sea', others talking about 'following islamic tradition' ...

which I'm guessing doesn't include bunging him out the window over a nearby ocean, not that there are any nearby oceans really ...

There are historic Islamic reasons for sea burial - mostly to with stopping the body being dug up by the enemy...however it's the enemy burying him here...

Wait and see on this one i think.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Those scenes of people 'celebrating' in Washington strike me as beng rather distasteful.

America is not, by and large, a tasteful place. This can be seen in the constant references to 'justice' when people are speaking about a violent death.

 

[butchersapron]

America is not, by and large, a tasteful place. This can be seen in the constant references to 'justice' when people are speaking about a violent death.

Jesus but you're a knob.

 

[miss minnie]

Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it.

ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S
12 hours ago

ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
Go away helicopter - before I take out my giant swatter :-/
12 hours ago
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ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).
12 hours ago

 

[Bernie Gunther]

America is not, by and large, a tasteful place. This can be seen in the constant references to 'justice' when people are speaking about a violent death.

There's a huge amount of party-political meaning for yanks in this that just doesn't translate to the civilised world. I was quoting and linking some of it a page or two back. Some of it involves openly gloating to annoy their domestic rivals ...

 

[Voley]

I think the 'following Islamic tradition' bit refers to burying someone within a day of them dying. The conspiracy theorists must be going into overdrive right now, though. Expect effusive loonery over the next few months.

 

[liquidlunch]

bit more here http://www.news.com.au/world/osama-bin-laden-dead-us-has-the-body/story-fn8ljm6z-1226048335673

 

[miss minnie]

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[Bernie Gunther]

The fact that bin Laden was found in a compound in a wealthy retirement community populated in large part by former Pakistani military officers raises dire questions about the relationship of the Pakistani army and its intelligence community to radical Islamic terrorists.

New Yorker blog

 

[Gingerman]

Well I ain't going to believe it until Obama produces the death certificate

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Well I ain't going to believe it until Obama produces the death certificate

 

[dylans]

New Yorker blog

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Yup. Pakistan/US relations are already under intense strain. I think this is going to exacerbate those tensions. Pakistan is now the most dangerous place in the world

 

[DotCommunist]

The fact that bin Laden was found in a compound in a wealthy retirement community populated in large part by former Pakistani military officers raises dire questions about the relationship of the Pakistani army and its intelligence community to radical Islamic terrorists.

questions that nobody was asking before now? as if. SIS are dodgy as fuck- this has been known by everyone since the year dot.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

questions that nobody was asking before now? as if. SIS are dodgy as fuck- this has been known by everyone since the year dot.

Sure, but I think this is kinda confirming it in case anyone was still wondering ...

 

[liquidlunch]

most corruptable place on the planet,should have been straifed years ago for the sake of cricket

 

[dylans]

questions that nobody was asking before now? as if. SIS are dodgy as fuck- this has been known by everyone since the year dot.

Yes indeed but this assassination brings questions of Pakistan's relationship to Al Qaeda and the Taliban into the open. The USA has a deeply contradictory relationship with Pakistan. On the one hand it hands billions of dollars to it and trains its military elites and on the other hand it is bombing the country every day and for Pakistans part, elements within its establishment are offering support to its enemies, The ISI doesn't just have a very dodgy realtionship to the US it has a very dodgy relationship to Pakistan civil society as a whole. It's a poison that infects every institution of the country. I expect Pakistan US relations to take a nose dive in coming months

 

[DotCommunist]

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[Globojanchi]

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Arguably an inherent problem with any spook or secret police organisation ...

 

[Globojanchi]

 

[quimcunx]

he was a tactical and powerful fighter and a gentleman Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[Idris2002]

Yes indeed but this assassination brings questions of Pakistan's relationship to Al Qaeda and the Taliban into the open. The USA has a deeply contradictory relationship with Pakistan. On the one hand it hands billions of dollars to it and trains its military elites and on the other hand it is bombing the country every day and for Pakistans part, elements within its establishment are offering support to its enemies, The ISI doesn't just have a very dodgy realtionship to the US it has a very dodgy relationship to Pakistan civil society as a whole. It's a poison that infects every institution of the country. I expect Pakistan US relations to take a nose dive in coming months

I expect Pakistan to collapse in the coming months/years.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I expect Pakistan to collapse in the coming months/years.

The repercussions of which will be...I'm guessing...not good?

 

[dylans]

I expect Pakistan to collapse in the coming months/years.

I have posted fairly extensively on this . You can read it here if you want
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/th...emy-Laws..?p=11664121&viewfull=1#post11664121

 

[editor]

Killing Bin Laden may - or may not - prove to be a psychological blow, but until the basic things that attract people into the world of terrorism are addressed (lack of education, limited aspiration, poverty, inequality and demonisation of other faiths by dodgy religious leaders) then the problem's not going to go away any time soon.

 

[dylans]

Killing Bin Laden may - or may not - prove to be a psychological blow, but until the basic things that attract people into the world of terrorism are addressed (lack of education, limited aspiration, poverty, inequality and demonisation of other faiths by dodgy religious leaders) then the problem's not going to go away any time soon.

I think the ideology is being undermined but not by this killing. I think the events across the Arab world have done much to undermine it

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Al Jazz Eng is saying that apparently the Pakistan Government didn't know about this operation - are they saying this to cover this behinds for their own population, or were they really caught out by the US?