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Osama bin Laden killed by US forces in Pakistan

I'm sure the relatives of the fifty two people wish they had. You heartless cunt.

and how many iraqi civilians have died as a result of us going to war then? I think 52 doesn't even come close. yes it's a shame that a few nobbers from luton decided to make bombs out of weedkiller, is that what you want?
 
and how many iraqi civilians have died as a result of us going to war then? I think 52 doesn't even come close. yes it's a shame that a few nobbers from luton decided to make bombs out of weedkiller, is that what you want?

Iraq wut?


Yes, 7/7, a shame.
 
I wonder if they would have liked to put him on trail ,or is a dead bin laden what they wanted
 
Dead is what Obama ordered.

bin Laden on trial would have been better, would have fulfilled the rhetoric of justice etc. The rest of ever in ADX Florence may well have been a better deterrent than death.

And let us see under what authority the United States justifies a firefight by US special forces on Pakistani soil.
 
Yep, although I'm not sad to see BL go, I have been wondering about the timing.

I think Leon Panetta's impending departure as CIA director may have had something to do with the timing - would have been pretty galling for him to have put the work in only to see Petraeus get the credit for claiming bin Laden's scalp in his first few weeks in the job!
 
Really didn't expect that when I turned on the news.

"Tributes have been paid to the world's most famous terrorist."
 
And let us see under what authority the United States justifies a firefight by US special forces on Pakistani soil.

As if Pakistan isn't on the verge of major-league destabilisation already, too. Nice one, America *slow handclaps*

Al-Qaeda and the Salafists now have their eternal martyr, and it'll boost AQ's "profile" no end amongst their sympathisers around the world. Bin Laden, who for years has effectively been off the field, and arguably of increasing irrelevance on-the-ground, will now be elevated as some great revolutionary warrior (the Saudi version of Che?). And this'll have zero impact in the "coalition's" favour on events on the ground in Afghanistan, Iraq et all. The Saudis get away yet again with having to account for their role in developing a uncompromosing Wahabbism and Deobandism that is the philiosophical bedrock of AQ etc. And of course everyone will forget that the whole goddamn point of AQ/Salafists is leaderless resistance.

It would've been far better to let Osama stay in hiding, ever fearful for his life, and be forgotten about as events in the Middle-East make his "man of the people" appeal utterly irrelevant and forgotten about...and the USA's crowing on this will be seen as the Crusaders throwing their imperialistic weight around again.

Personally speaking, no "justice" has been done here, and this will backfire on the US sooner or later.
 
As if Pakistan isn't on the verge of major-league destabilisation already, too. Nice one, America *slow handclaps*

Al-Qaeda and the Salafists now have their eternal martyr, and it'll boost AQ's "profile" no end amongst their sympathisers around the world. Bin Laden, who for years has effectively been off the field, and arguably of increasing irrelevance on-the-ground, will now be elevated as some great revolutionary warrior (the Saudi version of Che?). And this'll have zero impact in the "coalition's" favour on events on the ground in Afghanistan, Iraq et all. The Saudis get away yet again with having to account for their role in developing a uncompromosing Wahabbism and Deobandism that is the philiosophical bedrock of AQ etc. And of course everyone will forget that the whole goddamn point of AQ/Salafists is leaderless resistance.

It would've been far better to let Osama stay in hiding, ever fearful for his life, and be forgotten about as events in the Middle-East make his "man of the people" appeal utterly irrelevant and forgotten about...and the USA's crowing on this will be seen as the Crusaders throwing their imperialistic weight around again.

Personally speaking, no "justice" has been done here, and this will backfire on the US sooner or later.



^^^^ Bang on
 
They'll come back to bite some poor fuckers. Nowt surer.

Every reaction and so on, then I make you right. Personally I dont have any real moral issues with this because if you live by the sword and so on but its just the public displays of 'joy' over the violent death of anybody makes me feel really odd. Its something that I know that I could also feel myself, given the wrong circumstances but it always makes me feel uneasy for reasons I cannot articulate.

Bin Laden was a bastard, of that there is no doubt and the world will not miss him but is there any difference between that crowd in Washington and what we see from places like Pakistan and so on ? Lets be honest, most people on here seem to be saying that when Lady Thatcher dies they will be dancing in the streets as well so I dont expect any great moral compass from U75 on the issues but its very very unedifying to see any human celebrating the violent death of another, no matter what the circumstances or even the justification.
 
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