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On the Road

tom796

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i've just finished reading Jack Kerouac's On the Road - anyone read it? stunning prose, i really 'dig' (hehe) Kerouac's automatic writing thing. and his evocations of long dark jazz-playing 50s nights are quite something. but i felt there was a huge void there too. i feel a bit scared of not 'getting IT' and so on, but i just felt that the lack of real narrative structure meant that the book got a bit tiresome after a while. i also thought there was no real moral centre to it. not in a cunning postmodernist kind of way, but in a lazy, naive way. most of the characters were pretty flat. too much focus on landscape, too little on personal relationships etc. ho hum. still something to read though eh. now i'm on to something called How the Irish Saved Civilisation. a bit different, no?
 
I liked it. But it did kinda drag towards the end. Which does mirror long term travelling. So that's cool I guess. Any of his other books any good?
 
I liked the bits of the book that were him actually 'on the road' as it were. But the bits when he was describing the parties and stuff I found a bit pretentious. Mind you, I reckon it would have read very differently back in the early '60's. Saying 'we went to a wild party and smoked lots of tea and stayed up ALL NIGHT maaaaan' doesn't get much of a response these days!

I also hated the way he sucks up to Dean all thru the book. Hey look Deans stolen my girlfriends car! Isn't he crazy!!! Wow, he's borrowing money off my mum that he's got no intention of paying back! What a guy!!!!
 
I read it a bit naively young, didn't follow most of it and took about a quarter of the book to work out what tea really was. For a while I thought it was, possibly, tea. Which struck me a shocking mis-use of the finest brew known to man.
 
i thin kthis is like catch 22 - if we read them at the time theyd have been like really good but reading them now - theyre not up to much at all imo
 
When I was 14 or so I read 'Dharma Bums' and 'Desolation Angels' and quite enjoyed them at the time.

But I agree with the character in Buddha of Suburbia who says to young enthusiastic Karim "the cruellest thing you can do to Kerouac is read his books again when you're 30".

It's very true. He comes across as a sad old drunk with a mother fixation :(
 
Is Dharma Bums the one where they run really fast down the side of a mountain? that's a fantastic piece of writing, but all too rare in Kerouac, the Kureishi quote is spot on.

much better to read Ringolevio. as Ringolevio will tell you ;)
 
Reading it just now very dissapointed. Although its getting a bit better just nowas they are in Mexico. Just feels like being stuck in a going east/west/east/west and bloody back again. Not the worst book in the world but for it reputaion I was expecting more :(
 
tom796 said:
i've just finished reading Jack Kerouac's On the Road -

If you liked that, you should check out The Beat Hotel by Barry Miles, it recounts the history of what went on during the years when the Beats were abroad in Paris. I read it a few months back excellent book relating many interesting anecdotes - them beatniks were wild :cool: :D
 
I loved it when I first read it when I was, oh, about 13 or 14. The fantastic scene where he's lying on the roof of the car in the sun very stoned was what inspired me to get into drugs and I've never regretted it.

:) L
 
I read it the first time I went round America on Greyhound coaches - really enjoyed it. Probably responsible for me beginning to listen to jazz.

Not sure if I read it now, I'd enjoy it as much.
 
I still rate Kerouac a great deal - but then I'm not 30. ;)

On the Road doesn't deserve to be his best known book though - people are right that the Dharma Bums is excellent (mostly because Gary Snyder is the don), but there are a number of others better than OTR too.

Matt
 
pilchardman said:
I haven't listened to them in years. Do they stand the test of time?

Cope didn't.
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(& Kerouac always bored the arse off me. The dreams one was semi-interesting, but that was it)
 
I read it recently and enjoyed it a lot. Although it's by no means perfect (Kerouac comes across as a bit of an arse and there's very little plot or structure to the novel) I thought it was very evocative and has been pretty influential on American culture.
 
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