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wishface said:
i doubt that would make a decent defence.

Where are the site's admins and mods in all this? What do they have to say regarding the security of their users? Do they care?
I'm sure it would make a perfectly adequate defence beyond resonable doubt.

Fuck it, just open your wifi router as well if you're that worried, and say it was some kids in the street with their new fangled ipodhackery.
 
cybertect said:
Any coincidence between this round of copyright busts [tv-links yesterday, Oink today] in the UK and the fact that Part III of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act came into force on October 1st? :confused:

That is fucked up.
How do people fight against that sort of draconian legislation? Write an ineffectual letter to an MP?

I think 'I can't remember it' will be a common defence, they can't compel you to remember something you say you've forgotten. I doubt it'll be used much, but it fucks me off that these little civil-rights breaches slip through constantly, even though I don't even live in the State of England.
Truecrypt uses two keys and a second encrypted hidden partiton so that would be a solution.
 
Structaural said:
That is fucked up.
How do people fight against that sort of draconian legislation? Write an ineffectual letter to an MP?

I think 'I can't remember it' will be a common defence, they can't compel you to remember something you say you've forgotten. I doubt it'll be used much, but it fucks me off that these little civil-rights breaches slip through constantly, even though I don't even live in the State of England.
Truecrypt uses two keys and a second encrypted hidden partiton so that would be a solution.
won't matter, they have the site info for user activity (presumably - we don't knwo whether anything was able to be done to protect that in advance). Fucks me off that the people running it were so blase about security in respect of doing something that is inarguably illegal.
 
Just say you were using it for 'research' purposes ;)

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Structaural said:
That is fucked up.
How do people fight against that sort of draconian legislation? Write an ineffectual letter to an MP?

I think 'I can't remember it' will be a common defence, they can't compel you to remember something you say you've forgotten. I doubt it'll be used much, but it fucks me off that these little civil-rights breaches slip through constantly, even though I don't even live in the State of England.
Truecrypt uses two keys and a second encrypted hidden partiton so that would be a solution.
Encryption is something that piques my geeky interest, and I have been doing a bit of reading about this very thing the other day:

Deniable Encryption
In cryptography, deniable encryption allows an encrypted message to be decrypted to different sensible plaintexts, depending on the key used, or otherwise makes it impossible to prove the existence of the real message without the proper encryption key. This allows the sender to have plausible deniability if compelled to give up his or her encryption key.
So, in essence, one key could unlock all your mp3 files, and another key could unlock some fake but genuine looking sensitive data. Diaries or stock information or something. I love it :)
 
dogmatique said:
They'll only be going for Admins and *possibly* serious heavyweight users, the terabyte boys, serial advance uploaders and the like.
Sadfly, that hasn't always been in the case in recent music piracy cases.
 
dogmatique said:
In the UK?

There's been a couple of punative cases in the US recently, but here?
Not sure, but that's no reason why there might not be such prosecutions here in the future.
 
well the guy has been released, dont know what that implies.

i'd like to hear what he has to say in regard to the lack of respect he's shown his users concerning security. It was under investigation for 2 years!
 
wishface said:
well the guy has been released, dont know what that implies.

Hopefully that the Police have realised they were fed a pack of lies by the soon to be bankrupt record industry, and will no longer bother to help them in their futile crusade to protect an obselete business model. Or not, of course.
 
Article by Jack Schofield and his pipe on TechGuardian:

link

Perhaps the police had a bit of free time between raids on a militant extremist bomb factory and busting a gang of crack cocaine distributors. Or perhaps they've just been watching too much television. The fact that they billed this as "Operation Ark Royal" suggests the Cleveland Police have a perception problem.
 
There's a dutch/english 'pirate party' it seems - they released a statement:

PDF link

Finally, we call on the IFPI and BPI, as we call on all other industry groups, to release the
methodologies used to determine their claimed losses, so that their validity can be investigated. If their
claims are valid, or even understating the point, then they will stand so much stronger, but the secrecy
surrounding the determination of these figures strongly suggests that it would not even hold up to a
cursory review.
 
(sorry bored and workless at work)

I like this comment from Torrentfreak

“Sure, the big companies will tell you that you’ll only hurt yourself, the quality of your entertainment and whatnot - and they are right.” No, sorry, the big companies are not right about this. Just read Brad DeLong’s blog entry “Fake Steve Jobs: The Music Industry Noobs Have Finally Figured Out What We’re Doing” or Steve Albini’s essay “The Problem With Music” (available online). The recording industry has been suffocating art and American public culture for decades.. Every wonder why you don’t hear the Velvet Underground, or the Replacements, of Fela Kuti on the radio? (Payola anyone?)

Oink created a community where large numbers of people had ready access to art, and art should be free to the public. (Yes it has to be funded, but there are ways of funding it other than intellectual copyright.) What the recording industry is most afraid of is that people are going to start thinking that all this mindblowing art that’s been recorded over the last 100 years is something they should, as citizens, have a right to hear without having paying a bribe to Guido at Warner Bros. That listening to Public Enemy, or Burning Spear, or Albert Ayler is part of how you begin to understand the avant-garde, or grasp the consequences of racism or imperialism. They’re afraid that people are going to start to recognize that music isn’t “product,” that musicians don’t make it to earn money (as if any of them ever did), that it’s not it’s just property like a television or a spare tire. They want you to be ashamed of stealing art, but art can only be stolen from the public; it can’t be stolen by it. Oink was something to be intensely proud of. It was one of the best public libraries I’ve ever seen. I got a lot of good records because of it, and I shared a lot of good records with other people. That’s not “stealing,” that’s educating.

followed by

FUCK THE SCENE, you PARASITE!
:D oh well...
 
Now the cops have Oinks servers it will be interesting to see how long it takes for them to go through all the 1000's of mp3 files that are on them... ;)
 
That report demonstrates amply that the legistlators have *no* idea how the internet works. Nothing they mention there is feasable.
 
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