Occupy Wall Street
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ska invita
back on the other side
not so unusual, there's been as good as no coverage in the mainstream UK media. Considering how much US news gets covered in the UK that's not a coincidence...How the hell have I not been paying any attention to this. Fucking head in the clouds
dilute micro
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dylans
overlord of all acorns
Not sure what that sentence means. The issue is the accumulation of wealth by corporate power through the manipulation of the financial markets and the impoverishment of the population for the benefit of that tiny elite who have subverted the democratic institutions to serve their interests and effectively disenfranchised the population of the country. That's a class war. A class war launched by the very wealthy. How is any of this a problem caused by the "left?" whatever that means. The problem with the left is it has failed to create an effective opposition to this financial coup de tat. Until now. I don't know where this movement will go but it represents the beginning of a fightback and its about time.
dilute micro
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The guy in the video is making a partisan spin - "far right....love to destroy the middle class".
You probably didn't notice.
In reality the fleecing of the middle class comes from both the right and the left. Both sides of the aisle protect big money with taxpayer dollars. You're only imagining an 'opposition' by the left. It doesn't exist. They're in on it too.
I suspect a lot of the people at the protests are like that guy - just partisans and pawns of their party.
dilute micro
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Yes them too. They're a part of it too.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
So not the people occupying wall street then.
US governments - republican and democrat - have been acting as willing stooges for the fradusters and looters of wall street for over 20 years.
And its the same in every other liberal democracy the world over.
US governments - republican and democrat - have been acting as willing stooges for the fradusters and looters of wall street for over 20 years.
And its the same in every other liberal democracy the world over.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
"We are veterans of The United States of America "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu63e7QD_5k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu63e7QD_5k&feature=player_embedded
dilute micro
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A lot longer than 20 years Kaka.
What do you mean 'not the people occupying wall street'? You seem to be back at square one with what's going on. Yeah most people know there's a problem. Most people even see who's running the show. But people like the guy in the video aren't willing to turn their backs on their beloved party. They aren't going to fault them for anything. The democrats are as guilty as anyone.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
I don't see this movement as particularly partial to any particular party. Rather it is an expression of disgust that the entire democratic process has become the slave to financial institutions and that includes Obama. If anything, it is disappointment with Obama, after all the hopey changing bollocks of the last election, that has created the conditions in which people are now turning to the streets. How could anyone not be disillusioned with Obama. Has there ever been a President who promised so much and delivered so little?
dilute micro
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dilute micro
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Anybody can be against something. There's a difference in knowing what you stand for. Most people I've seen are against the other party being in charge and implementing policy. Their solution is to put their party in charge.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
What makes you think most occupy wall st types are democrats? No clue one way or the other myself. And the Dems are in charge already, btw.
dilute micro
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Yeah the dems are in charge so why was that guy's rant about the 'right'?
I don't know what most protesters would say. Obviously when there's a movement of any sort you get the follower types. I suspect a lot of them are just political partisans who've spun the whole thing into an 'us versus them'.
The Dems like the Repub are centre right although the repubs are drifting to extreme right.
dilute micro
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It's not about their position on the scale - it's what they do.
They both do the same thing.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
Because he was taking the opportunity to attack the right that was standing in front of him - Fox News.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
In other words you're just as much in the dark as me.
dilute micro
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And the reporter - seeing that it was a partisan rant - asked if Obama was a part of it and the guy danced around the question without answering it. Did you miss that?
dilute micro
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When I predict that nothing will come of this. I'll most likely be correct.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
No, that's why I posted earlier "The chap in the video did seem to be going easy on Obama..." Did you miss that?
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
I agree it's unlikely that anything will come of this. The anticapitalists7ant-bankers in the USA don't really have the infrastructure or the culture of solidarity that's needed to sustain a movement that can win gains. It's still nice to see the initiative in the USA's political world being taken by people using the language of class, though.
dilute micro
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Don't be naive. He gave the democrats a pass for a reason.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
Because he has illusions in Obama? Possibly. Or perhaps he just saw taking anotehr pop at Fox and the birthers to be the top priority. No one who says 'class war' in that approving way can have too much faith in Lord Obama (c) The Boss.
Edit: have just realised that the chap's Union hat is probably giving you rage as well
dilute micro
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True it is. But unless the people realize that the government can't change anything when the government is not in control no progress can happen. When the country was founded the government was designed to not allow it to come to this. That was the whole purpose of decentralizing the government.
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