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NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

your university career is not going to get cut short because you smashed a window at a protest... The idiot that threw the extinguisher may be facing a term inside though...
 
Orang Utan said:
aw c'mon - what's wrong with breaking a few windows?
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nothing as long as you pay for them to be replaced. Would you be OK with someone breaking your windows?

Actually that's not true - it's criminal damage

Whatever one's views it was also wrong to intimidate people working inside the building.

Im sure they'll get clobbered for this once theyre identified.
 
gunneradt said:
nothing as long as you pay for them to be replaced. Would you be OK with someone breaking your windows?

Actually that's not true - it's criminal damage

Whatever one's views it was also wrong to intimidate people working inside the building.

Im sure they'll get clobbered for this once theyre identified.
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In all the videos I've seen the poeple sitting behind reception just look bemused. They certainly don't appear to be intimidated. None of them even got up out of their chairs ffs.
 
madzone said:
In all the videos I've seen the poeple sitting behind reception just look bemused. They certainly don't appear to be intimidated. None of them even got up out of their chairs ffs.
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The ones working on the top floor were - they had to have security keep the mob out by all accounts or at least block their way. Is that right?
 
The proetstrers were probably lucky come to think of it - most of the employees were probably female. I can think of many offices where they'd probably have got clobbered when confronted by workers none to worried about hammering a few teenage students.
 
gunneradt said:
The proetstrers were probably lucky come to think of it - most of the employees were probably female. I can think of many offices where they'd probably have got clobbered when confronted by workers none to worried about hammering a few teenage students.
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Hang on I thought it was a hardcore minority of extremists that done it?
 
A strike is a form of direct action, right? Its designed to inconvenience the people with the money financially to a greater extent than the demands that the group striking are making would, if I am understand this correctly anyway? So when the windows got smashed, that wasn't with the intention of violence, it was to prove the point, it was to say 'you cost us, we'll cost you'. And which will get more media coverage? The only way the smashing of those windows could be constued as violence is as a form of economic violence. A bit like the economic violence that the government are applying through cuts.
 
radio_atomica said:
A strike is a form of direct action, right? Its designed to inconvenience the people with the money financially to a greater extent than the demands that the group striking are making would, if I am understand this correctly anyway? So when the windows got smashed, that wasn't with the intention of violence, it was to prove the point, it was to say 'you cost us, we'll cost you'. And which will get more media coverage? The only way the smashing of those windows could be constued as violence is as a form of economic violence. A bit like the economic violence that the government are applying through cuts.
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so smashing windows isn't violent? I am free to do this to neighbours if I wish?

I think the courts may take a different view on this
 
chilango said:
Hang on I thought it was a hardcore minority of extremists that done it?
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it was kids driven on by a few veggie eaters. The whole group was quite funny - and the poor lambs in the paper the next day trying to make out they werent involved when they suddenly realised they may be kicked out of their polys was quite funny
 
gunneradt said:
it was kids driven on by a few veggie eaters. The whole group was quite funny - and the poor lambs in the paper the next day trying to make out they werent involved when they suddenly realised they may be kicked out of their polys was quite funny
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Quality post.
 
gunneradt said:
so smashing windows isn't violent? I am free to do this to neighbours if I wish?

I think the courts may take a different view on this
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Smashing the windows at millbank tower in law would be classed as criminal damage wouldn't it - damage to another person's property with malicious intent - breaking a sheet of glass somewhere is not in and of itself a violent act. The legal definition of whether is constitutes criminal damage is to do with a) the ownership of the sheet of glass and b) the intent behind the action to break it. The intent was, as far as I can tell, not to cause physical injury to another person so no, not violent in those terms, I think economically violent is a fair phrase to use, given the situation.
 
gunneradt said:
so smashing windows isn't violent? I am free to do this to neighbours if I wish?

I think the courts may take a different view on this
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No. Smashing windows isn't violent.

Actually. You can't compare the ruling party of government with your neighbour. But if they were comparable, then yes, feel free.

Of course the courts will take a different view. That's what they're there for.
 
chilango said:
No. Smashing windows isn't violent.

Actually. You can't compare the ruling party of government with your neighbour. But if they were comparable, then yes, feel free.

Of course the courts will take a different view. That's what they're there for.
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Smashing windows isn't violent? Excellent
 
Orang Utan said:
it only matters if people get hurt. who care about a window?
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That's like saying it doesn't matter if I drink drive as long as I don't run someone over. None of those involved knew or cared whether someone got injured.

However they were quite lucky their target was weak. I used to know a copper in the 80s who loved policing the football hooligans!!
 
gunneradt said:
That's like saying it doesn't matter if I drink drive as long as I don't run someone over. None of those involved knew or cared whether someone got injured.

However they were quite lucky their target was weak. I used to know a copper in the 80s who loved policing the football hooligans!!
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you seem to be ignorant of the concept of context here.
 
Just find the whole thing quite funny. I guess it's what happens when you turn every portakabin in the UK into a university and let kids in with 2 Ds.
 
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