New Series of Dr Who

[TheHoodedClaw]

In the eleventh hour why does the camera focus on Rory's pens before the name badge? Why when she traps the doctor by the car does she wear her watch inside out out? Where do clues end and coincidences and errors begin?

This whole series contains, from beginning to end, everything that is needed, to explain itself; like some Blackpool Rock with "you need to remember, Amelia" in pink gooey letters writ throughout. I think.

Ponder that, while listening to the rather lovely

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm beginning to think the two Hartnell photos (library card and that machine) are more than just nods

 

[cybertect]

Liz 10 wears a mask

...

The only episodes that don't tie in neatly with the theme of perception are the two Silurian episodes, unless I'm just missing the link

The Silurians wore masks too.

 

[danny la rouge]

I remember those two. Don't they seem super double shit now that new one is on the scene.

Absolutely. Amy is the best companion of New Who.

 

[AverageJoe]

His tie is definitely red sometimes, and other times it looks sort of blue, but that could just be the lighting.

I tried to get a good screen cap, but this was the best I could do. The second pic is when he is with Cleopatra and the first is when he is put into the Pandorica.

Not much use actually

 

[cybertect]

Other "perception"-y themed stuff

BTW, did anyone else notice the Zygons getting a name check during the roll-call of the unlikely alliance in the last episode?

They were shape-shifters.

 

[cybertect]

the first is when he is put into the Pandorica.

I'd put that down to lighting. A red tie would look quite dark under blue light, as it does.

 

[DotCommunist]

In an unfilmed scene in Part Five of the never completed serial Shada, a Zygon was listed as being among the prisoners kept in the titular Time Lord prison

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coincidence ?

 

[The Master]

its gonna be crazy the last episode because all that is going on and i hope its all good.

 

[Santino]

I tried to get a good screen cap, but this was the best I could do. The second pic is when he is with Cleopatra and the first is when he is put into the Pandorica.

Not much use actually

I watched carefully and in some scenes the tie went from red to dark-purpley-blue in the same shot as the lighting changed, i.e. he moved about.

 

[Vintage Paw]

So do we think there are two doctors then? One that knows it's him being put in the Pandorica, and the one that is put in the Pandorica? And the person controlling the TARDIS while RS is in it is the former? Having RS in an episode reminds us we can assume some extra strange timey-wimey timeline crossing stuff. We've seen Amy and Rory waving at themselves, so we know 2 of the same people can be present in the same place and same timeline at the same time.

Or it could be more pedestrian, and Rory breaks the doctor out of the Pandorica in a last ditch attempt at avenging Amy's death, and Amy was important because she needed to be able to recreate Rory to get the doctor out of the Pandorica.

 

[mwgdrwg]

River Song said "See you when the Pandorica opens". But she wasn't there when it opened was she? So will she be there when it opens again?

 

[nicksonic]

Lets just hope its not an RTD style ending, but i think it will be.

i don't think you can get much more RTD than having the daleks AND cybermen AND autons AND sontarans etc

but i quite enjoyed it, interesting juxtaposition of the universe having to be saved from the doctor.

not sure the previous 11 episodes have been worth sitting through to build up to the last 2 parter since they weren't particularly strong on their own but hopefully next week's will be a blinder

 

[holteman]

I tried to get a good screen cap, but this was the best I could do. The second pic is when he is with Cleopatra and the first is when he is put into the Pandorica.

Not much use actually

Same tie. with that blue light it looks dark...

 

[AverageJoe]

Yeah - I'm still convinced that there are 2 Dr's though, mainly because of the no jacket/jacket/no jacket bit in one of the episodes, although I reckon that when we see the last episode we'll all be going 'How did I miss that' like everyone did with the Da Vinci code -'its his *wife*???'

 

[holteman]

Amy has to be causing the crack in time.... there is something wrong with her existence....Cracks appear where ever she goes. The original crack started on that date. After there first meeting everything started going weird... tardis fucks up, she is suddenly an adult with no history of growing up.....Amy is the answer...


Just interesting to see how they explain it and still keep her in the show.

 

[danny la rouge]

Yeah - I'm still convinced that there are 2 Dr's though, mainly because of the no jacket/jacket/no jacket bit in one of the episodes, although I reckon that when we see the last episode we'll all be going 'How did I miss that' like everyone did with the Da Vinci code -'its his *wife*???'

wtf did you miss in the Da Vinci Code?

 

[holteman]

Also... fucking annoying coalition....If they want to stop him, why not just fucking kill him... he was there with every evil in the universe there, why not kill him... problem over (in their mind) and universal domination with no one to keep stopping them.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Also... fucking annoying coalition....If they want to stop him, why not just fucking kill him... he was there with every evil in the universe there, why not kill him... problem over (in their mind) and universal domination with no one to keep stopping them.

They're probably painfully aware that they've all tried killing him a billion times before to no avail.

 

[fogbat]

They're probably painfully aware that they've all tried killing him a billion times before to no avail.

It must be so disheartening to be a Who villain.

"I've got him, there's no way he can possibly esca- oh..."

"This time, this time for sure, I can- oh..."

"I've covered every possibility, accounted for every varia- oh balls, there he goes again. Bugger all this, I'm off to be a space farmer."

 

[danny la rouge]

They're probably painfully aware that they've all tried killing him a billion times before to no avail.

Exactly. They're not stupid.

 

[Stigmata]

He even got exterminated for real by a Dalek and that didn't work either.

 

[holteman]

They're probably painfully aware that they've all tried killing him a billion times before to no avail.

They must know he only has so many regenerations... ESP the darlek's!.. tie him up and shoot the fuck out of him for hours on end till he is brown bread...

Its paramount to a Bond film....."he are my secret plans.. now I'll just leave you to escape form this device"

 

[Gromit]

They must know he only has so many regenerations...

He reached them years ago but the series was still successful and so the writers rewrote how many he is allowed.

The only true way the Darleks can truly destroy the Doctor is to lower his TV ratings. They need to travel to this universe and exterminate his audience. Or launch a rival TV show to steal his audience.

I'm not sure what kind of show they'd be successful at? A game show where the losing contestants are EXTERMINATED. Actually I'd probably watch that over Who.

 

[DotCommunist]

Pretty sure it has been 12 regenerations for ever.

 

[holteman]

He reached them years ago but the series was still successful and so the writers rewrote how many he is allowed.

The only true way the Darleks can truly destroy the Doctor is to lower his TV ratings. They need to travel to this universe and exterminate his audience. Or launch a rival TV show to steal his audience.

I'm not sure what kind of show they'd be successful at? A game show where the losing contestants are EXTERMINATED. Actually I'd probably watch that over Who.

"Tonight on BB2, Davros travels to Kent where he helps a couple, redecorate their spare room in preperation for their new baby in 'Darlek design'.."

 

[innit]

"Tonight on BB2, Davros travels to Kent where he helps a couple, redecorate their spare room in preperation for their new baby in 'Darlek design'.."

 

[Gromit]

"Tonight on BB2, Davros travels to Kent where he helps a couple, redecorate their spare room in preperation for their new baby in 'Darlek design'.."

Tonight on the Clothes Show Gold Darlek will be telling us why big black knobbly bits are in.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

DALEK!
You fools.

 

[danny la rouge]

DALEK!
You fools.

I ignore it now. They add Rs where there should be none, and omit them where there should be one! ("lawr and owdah"). Used to bother me, but not now. I smile beatifically at it, like they were errant children.