New Series of Dr Who

[elevendayempire]

I hope someone wipes YOUR species out.

Then I'll have to be all mopey like David Tennant.

 

[The Master]

one thing i noticed was the magma pools in their civilisation, just disturb that and start a cave in or eruption and they'll go swimming in Magma and the doctor quickly gets the heck out of there

 

[elevendayempire]

Anyone ever read this spin-off novel from the 1990s? Set in an alternate universe where the Silurians killed the Jon Pertwee Doctor in their first TV appearance. It was

 

[strung out]

Anyone ever read this spin-off novel from the 1990s? Set in an alternate universe where the Silurians killed the Jon Pertwee Doctor in their first TV appearance. It was

maybe about 10 years ago. i was talking about it with my dad last night, i've got it on my bookshelf so may give it another go.

 

[DotCommunist]

http://www.drwhoguide.com/whona19p.htm

intro looks good. Amazon! Amazon!

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Anyone ever read this spin-off novel from the 1990s? Set in an alternate universe where the Silurians killed the Jon Pertwee Doctor in their first TV appearance. It was

yeah i have it.... forbidden planet were flogging new adventures for 1.50 each when the beeb took back the rights so i got like 40 of em

they are very mixed in quality... the missing adventures tended to be good but i only have 5 or so of them



ohhh the new adventure where they do a take on doctor meeting the culture (ian banks) was good

 

[krtek a houby]

He's convincingly alien, and that's a good thing. In the most recent episode, his expression when he realises he's just plain forgotten about the young boy is wonderful. Mind you, watching interviews with Matt Smith - the man himself is a bit other. To a lesser extent, so is Karen Gillan, and the pair of them seem to have ridiculous chemistry together. The casting people were probably high-fiving and dancing down the street when that pair turned up.

^ this

 

[elevendayempire]

ohhh the new adventure where they do a take on doctor meeting the culture (ian banks) was good

Yeah, that was a good 'un.

Any of the ones by Paul Cornell, Ben Aaronovitch, Lance Parkin, Lawrence Miles and Kate Orman are well worth a read.

 

[krtek a houby]

One of these things does not look like the others. "Different branch of the species" doesn't cut it...

Oh yeah?

 

[DotCommunist]

I think Cornell did Head Games, the Land of Fiction one.


I would love to get hold of the culture/who mash up one.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Yeah, that was a good 'un.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Zvz_WbcwJ9k/S8Uo96QzWwI/AAAAAAAAA1A/WtBkUdPbCp8/s1600/The_Also_People.jpg

Any of the ones by Paul Cornell, Ben Aaronovitch, Lance Parkin, Lawrence Miles and Kate Orman are well worth a read.

unfortunately my copy has fallen apart... cheap fucking glue on some of them

*tries to remeber ones he liked*

ohh the sherlock holmes crossover was good
http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_na27.htm

 

[fogbat]

Doctor Who vs Batman is good if you can find it.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

oh i should check if i've got a copy of human nature... just to compare to the tv version

 

[BoxRoom]

oh i should check if i've got a copy of human nature... just to compare to the tv version

Can get a PDF copy here if you ain't got it. Got some other gooduns there an' all.

http://www.feedbooks.com/book/2934

 

[strung out]

seeing as we've started talking about the books, i should show off the rather embarrassing (or cool, depending on which way you look at it) collection of doctor who books i've got in my bedroom. it includes every single target novelisation of the original series, every single one of the virgin missing adventures, all of the virgin new adventures (we didn't bother getting the ones with just bernice in), and assorted other books including Who Killed Kennedy (the doctor assassinates the president) and The Pescatons (novelisation of a 1976 LP record)

i'm hoping that someone's got an even more geeky collection than that

 

[DotCommunist]

CTR your bookshelf is getting proper annexed by me.

 

[nicksonic]

i have all the target novels based on the original series, so cannot compete

 

[fogbat]

Awesome bookshelves

 

[strung out]

the entire collection was amassed well before my family had any connections to the doctor who mafia, so i can't even blame it on that

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

my collection is about 60-70% of that

tohugh i do have Damaged Goods which should have warned me about RTD .. it's shit really really shit

 

[krtek a houby]

@strung out

Around the mid 80s I got rid of my Target novelisations, reckon I had 100 or so. Dr Who Weekly/Monthly, I also sold on.

In the meantime I lost my red Dalek I got in 1970s but I still have my Mighty TV Comic Dr Who special & my cassette of State of Decay,

 

[elevendayempire]

oh i should check if i've got a copy of human nature... just to compare to the tv version

They've put a few of the New Adventures and Missing Adventures online for free on the BBC website - The Dying Days is highly recommended.

 

[strung out]

i'm trying to think of other geeky stuff me or my family own. my dad got doctor who weekly (as it was called then) right from the very first issue, for my then 3 year old brother. my brother now has every single issue of doctor who magazine ever produced, although the early copies are a little bit defaced by crayon etc

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i thought about trying lungbarrow... but somehow i can't bring myself to

also at one point i did read a lot of 8th doctor books .... but somehow i really didn't connect to him in the same way i did with the 7th

there weree still a few high lights though

 

[elevendayempire]

my collection is about 60-70% of that

tohugh i do have Damaged Goods which should have warned me about RTD .. it's shit really really shit

Fool, Damaged Goods is fucking brilliant. That closing epilogue that wraps up all the various story threads is genuinely chilling.

But you're right in that it does pre-empt a lot of the stuff from the new series; there's a teenager whose surname is Tyler who lives in a high-rise council flat with her mum, the Doctor's companion is an omnisexual cop from the future, it's grounded in a much more real-world setting than other Who novels, it's rammed with references to pop culture and TV of the period. And the narrative kinda falls to pieces in the end, with a Great Big Visual Spectacle of a space monster destroying Manchester. Also note: the Gallifreyan N-Form ends up being taken over and piloted by an emotionally-damaged woman, just like the Cyber King - and Miss Pendragon and the Behemoth computer in Dark Season. Something of a recurrent theme in Davies' work...

Oh, and there's a streak of darkness a mile wide. Though that tended to be buried under the fluffy surface trappings in the new series - people think that the episode with the Master is camp 'cause he dances to the Scissor Sisters, overlooking the fact that the story is about the last of humanity going insane, travelling back in time and murdering their ancestors "because it's fun". And the Doctor doesn't actually resolve that plot thread, either; humanity will still turn into the Toclafane in the future.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i'll admit though it's been a long time since i read it (jesus about a decade) but i really felt put out by the ending though i can't really remember why and the "real life" stuff felt like they had crashed an episode of eastenders into the side of a doctor who episode (although not in a dimentions in time way)

i think i just really feel that i don't like it when it rries to be "real" with "real people" for me it just grates

 

[strung out]

i was chatting to dad the other day about the new adventures. i've not read all of them, though he has and he said it got to the point where some of them seemed to be entirely written for the benefit of one joke. for example the one where for some reason paul mcartney is performing on stage but (i think) is actually an alien imposter or something. all for the benefit of the brigadier being able to say "chap with wings, five rounds rapid" (you need to be familiar with The Dæmons to get that one)

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

isn't it 3 rounds? ETA... no just my mind playing tricks

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i found the new adventures sorta went a little mad and were too busy trying to create a new dark sexy universe that it lost saome of the atmosphere of who


that's why i quite liked the missing adventures... they kinda felt more who-ish

 

[elevendayempire]

i found the new adventures sorta went a little mad and were too busy trying to create a new dark sexy universe that it lost saome of the atmosphere of who


that's why i quite liked the missing adventures... they kinda felt more who-ish

The interesting thing is, though, that the 90s and noughties Who novels really underpin the new series - perhaps moreso than the old TV show does. The novels introduced character-based storytelling (and characters who were more than just ciphers) to Who, and the new show picked that up and ran with it. By his own admission, Russell T Davies was a big fan of the books (indeed, there's a photo of him kicking around with his collection of New Adventures in the background) and the new show is informed by the developments introduced in the novels.

Indeed, some of the new episodes have lifted storylines wholesale from the books - The Christmas Invasion, for instance, has bone-masked villains who control people using voodoo and blood samples and a storyline in which a probe to Mars is intercepted by aliens, used as the pretext for an alien invasion in which a big spaceship hangs over London, and the Doctor is out of commission for much of the story, before making a big set-piece comeback towards the end.