New Secondary School in Brixton
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Mr retro said:
"Watching him over the last few days I've never seen a more supercillious, cock-sucking* asshole in my life."
I know what you mean. He really is a clueless, stuck-up fool isn't he?
But he serves a purpose - he continues to remind us what the Tories were, and are still, really about - Elitism and priviledge.
*Hey Retro, don't diss the fine art of cock-sucking. Ta.
"Watching him over the last few days I've never seen a more supercillious, cock-sucking* asshole in my life."
I know what you mean. He really is a clueless, stuck-up fool isn't he?
But he serves a purpose - he continues to remind us what the Tories were, and are still, really about - Elitism and priviledge.
*Hey Retro, don't diss the fine art of cock-sucking. Ta.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
The recent review of charity law by the Downing Street Performance and Innovation Unit has proposed, amongst other things, that there should be a test of "public benefit" in granting charitable status. The voluntary sector is arguing for an early introduction of Bill to implement their recommendations.
It is likely that various moves by leading public schools, eg in opening facilities to local communities or sharing them with state schools or getting involved in City Academies, is in anticipation of this change, which could hit them heavily. [/B][/QUOTE]
"Public benefit" test is avoiding the issue.Graham Able of Dulwich College is advocating that private schools take part in the City Academy programme and also set up burseries for poor children to go to private schools.This sop should easily satisfy New Labour-safegaurding the private schools charitable status.
Oliver Letwins comments might be amusing but he is a typical product of the public school system.Graham Able has also come in for criticism for remarks hes made about drugs,divorce and Brixton.As someone who works near Brixton and who advocates the the private sector should move into City Academies he when asked about Brixton said he knew little about it.
As for removal of "public" schools leading to a slippery slope to totalitarianism (I assume) this is a common defence of their privileged status in society.People IMO can only exercise genuine choice in society when their basic needs are met.To defend "public" schools on the basis of individual freedom just reinforces inequality.
Ive loked at the LibDem website and cant find anything concrete on their secondary education policies.Do they support City Academy programme,support Comprehensive schools etc?Can one of the Lib Dems post up on this?
It is likely that various moves by leading public schools, eg in opening facilities to local communities or sharing them with state schools or getting involved in City Academies, is in anticipation of this change, which could hit them heavily. [/B][/QUOTE]
"Public benefit" test is avoiding the issue.Graham Able of Dulwich College is advocating that private schools take part in the City Academy programme and also set up burseries for poor children to go to private schools.This sop should easily satisfy New Labour-safegaurding the private schools charitable status.
Oliver Letwins comments might be amusing but he is a typical product of the public school system.Graham Able has also come in for criticism for remarks hes made about drugs,divorce and Brixton.As someone who works near Brixton and who advocates the the private sector should move into City Academies he when asked about Brixton said he knew little about it.
As for removal of "public" schools leading to a slippery slope to totalitarianism (I assume) this is a common defence of their privileged status in society.People IMO can only exercise genuine choice in society when their basic needs are met.To defend "public" schools on the basis of individual freedom just reinforces inequality.
Ive loked at the LibDem website and cant find anything concrete on their secondary education policies.Do they support City Academy programme,support Comprehensive schools etc?Can one of the Lib Dems post up on this?
Not what I said, in fact I said that "charitable status is another matter". If they disappeared overnight, I'd be as well pleased. But I'd wouldn't welcome the sort of society that could "erradicate" them by fiat. Far better to see well heeled parents queing up to get their kids into state schools as Uni's are being obliged to sort out their admission practices.
Gramsci
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Here is link to Department of Education and Skills site giving government info on City Academy programme.It of course gives a rosy picture:
http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/academies/
http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/academies/
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Reading the above DFES site noticed the following points:
1)City Academies will be set up as limited companies with charitable status.
2)Their are 30 proposed in London.
3)They will not be selective but will be allowed 10% in on aptitude to "specialism" of school.
4)They are not bound by National Curriculum.
5)The "sponsors" will make up to 2million of the costs the rest will come from central government.
6)The sponsors will make decisions on "vision and ethos" of school.
7)The sponsors will appoint majority of governors.Their will be one elected parent governor and one person from LEA.
8)The school will be independant from LEA.
1)City Academies will be set up as limited companies with charitable status.
2)Their are 30 proposed in London.
3)They will not be selective but will be allowed 10% in on aptitude to "specialism" of school.
4)They are not bound by National Curriculum.
5)The "sponsors" will make up to 2million of the costs the rest will come from central government.
6)The sponsors will make decisions on "vision and ethos" of school.
7)The sponsors will appoint majority of governors.Their will be one elected parent governor and one person from LEA.
8)The school will be independant from LEA.
I heard someone mention the words 'city academy'...who's the Tory cunt that supports this stupid idea?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Have you been in Blackpool?
No the incident mentioned by Anna Key was ages ago when he came to Brixton and did his 'I have a dream' waffle....I just quoted it because it does no harm to have a laugh at his expense again..........
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
The reason that there were only 130 pupils was because there had been such uncertainty about its future for so long that parents stopped putting it down as a choice, so it became even easier to close it..........
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Their was an article in SLP last week about schools.Ive managed to get a letter in SLP this Friday(privatising push for education).Their are a page of letters(p31) about schools and Letwin.
I know Letwin is a typical public school Tory but are his attitudes that different from New Labour?His proposed island for asylum seekers for example.The home secretary was proposing to the EU that holding camps for refugees be put in countries on the edge of Europe.This was chucked out by the EU for the moment.Is this so different from Letwins attitudes?They are all pandering to Hate Mail readers.
The dire state of the Tory party is allowing Blair to plough on with "modernisation".IDS and Letwin are a distraction.What are the Tories supposed to do when New Labour policies are on the centre right?
I know Letwin is a typical public school Tory but are his attitudes that different from New Labour?His proposed island for asylum seekers for example.The home secretary was proposing to the EU that holding camps for refugees be put in countries on the edge of Europe.This was chucked out by the EU for the moment.Is this so different from Letwins attitudes?They are all pandering to Hate Mail readers.
The dire state of the Tory party is allowing Blair to plough on with "modernisation".IDS and Letwin are a distraction.What are the Tories supposed to do when New Labour policies are on the centre right?
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Also noteworthy was the letter from the manager of the Fridge saying how they were trying to attract "a respectable middle-class audience".
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
It wasn't the manager of the Fridge I don't think, it was the Fridge Bar which is not the same thing..........
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Their is now a date for a public meeting on an City Academy school in Brixton-and the possible Somerleyton Rd site.
Its on Thursday 20th November at 7pm in the Assembly Hall(thats part of the Town Hall.The entrance to the Hall is via the Acre Lane entrance I believe).
A representative of the DfES will attend and I assume Councillors etc.As I said its a public meeting so all can attend to air their views.
Im not sure how it will be run.Hopefully people will be able to speak up.
Its on Thursday 20th November at 7pm in the Assembly Hall(thats part of the Town Hall.The entrance to the Hall is via the Acre Lane entrance I believe).
A representative of the DfES will attend and I assume Councillors etc.As I said its a public meeting so all can attend to air their views.
Im not sure how it will be run.Hopefully people will be able to speak up.
Is the Carpet King of Peckham going to get this 'city academy' (privatised school) then?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
As there is a meeting coming up some more info on schools.Im not in SSCIL but here is what I think their position is with quotes from their reports.If Im wrong or their is more to add can someone post up.Any comments would be welcome.
The SSCIL are the only group independant of the Council that campaign for more school places.They have argued for the children of Clapham,Brixton and Herne Hill.They are run by the voluntary efforts of concerned parents alone.
As LBL has sold several school sites it will now have to either buy or use the remaining sites in central Brixton.The two sites put forward by the Council are the Shakespeare Rd depot and Somerleyton Rd.Both sites have problems-Somerleyton Rd is small,next to a railway line and poor access.The Shakespeare Rd depot-LBL would have to lease the site and move the depot.
The site that SSCIL have proposed is the Thames Water site on Brixton hill.This site would have to acquired by the Council.The Council claim that it is technically not feasible to use it.THE SSCIL say that this is incorrect.The main problem is funding to buy the site.THe City Academies program is Government funded but the local Council have to supply the site.SSCIL argue that Central or local government should find the funds to buy a suitable site large enough for a school with good facilities.This in actuality would be a small proportion of the overall cost of a new build school.The problem in Lambeth is high land prices and the fact the Council has sold good sites to developers.
SSCIL argue that to fulfill the needs of all children in central Lambeth 2 or 3 schools may be needed.The City Academies Unit agreed that 2 schools may be needed.
To quote from a SSCIL report they want;
" A non selective,non denominational,co educational secondary school,with a sixth form on the same site,that offers the same high quality learning and community ethos that can now bw found in many of Lambeths primary schools."
Also SSCIL argue that Lambeth should;
" immediately seek alternative sites in Brixton that are safe and big enough to accomodate the type of school local parents want."
and;
" Lambeth Council should create a working group to determine how much it would cost to develop the Thames Water site for a Brixton secondary school.This at a minimum should include the DfES,Lambeth,Thames Water,English Heritage and SSCIL."
Also,
For 3 years SSCIL has highlighted the issue of 600 children leaving primary schools in the centre,with no local secondary schools.The parents in SSCIL want every child to have access to a good local secondary school."
The SSCIL are the only group independant of the Council that campaign for more school places.They have argued for the children of Clapham,Brixton and Herne Hill.They are run by the voluntary efforts of concerned parents alone.
As LBL has sold several school sites it will now have to either buy or use the remaining sites in central Brixton.The two sites put forward by the Council are the Shakespeare Rd depot and Somerleyton Rd.Both sites have problems-Somerleyton Rd is small,next to a railway line and poor access.The Shakespeare Rd depot-LBL would have to lease the site and move the depot.
The site that SSCIL have proposed is the Thames Water site on Brixton hill.This site would have to acquired by the Council.The Council claim that it is technically not feasible to use it.THE SSCIL say that this is incorrect.The main problem is funding to buy the site.THe City Academies program is Government funded but the local Council have to supply the site.SSCIL argue that Central or local government should find the funds to buy a suitable site large enough for a school with good facilities.This in actuality would be a small proportion of the overall cost of a new build school.The problem in Lambeth is high land prices and the fact the Council has sold good sites to developers.
SSCIL argue that to fulfill the needs of all children in central Lambeth 2 or 3 schools may be needed.The City Academies Unit agreed that 2 schools may be needed.
To quote from a SSCIL report they want;
" A non selective,non denominational,co educational secondary school,with a sixth form on the same site,that offers the same high quality learning and community ethos that can now bw found in many of Lambeths primary schools."
Also SSCIL argue that Lambeth should;
" immediately seek alternative sites in Brixton that are safe and big enough to accomodate the type of school local parents want."
and;
" Lambeth Council should create a working group to determine how much it would cost to develop the Thames Water site for a Brixton secondary school.This at a minimum should include the DfES,Lambeth,Thames Water,English Heritage and SSCIL."
Also,
For 3 years SSCIL has highlighted the issue of 600 children leaving primary schools in the centre,with no local secondary schools.The parents in SSCIL want every child to have access to a good local secondary school."
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
What is it with carpets and kings? There used to be a Carpet King in Oxford as well - one Tony Rosser, who for several years was chairman of the football club as well. Anyway he was toppled from his throne because some eyars later I found myself speaking to him on the phone several times in connection with his Incom Support application, conversations which included, as I recall, a number of references to people "coming over here in banana boats".
But back to education. Can anybody explain to me the sixth form issue? I attended a sixth form that was simply the next year (or rather, two years) up in the school I went to in Hertfordshire, an arrangement which I believe is popular with parents. On the other hand, I understand that educationalists tend to believe that separate sixth forms, i.e. sixth form colleges drawing their intake from different secondary schools, are educationally superior. Is that right?
But back to education. Can anybody explain to me the sixth form issue? I attended a sixth form that was simply the next year (or rather, two years) up in the school I went to in Hertfordshire, an arrangement which I believe is popular with parents. On the other hand, I understand that educationalists tend to believe that separate sixth forms, i.e. sixth form colleges drawing their intake from different secondary schools, are educationally superior. Is that right?
Chrysanthemum
New Member
I've had the sixth form thing explained to me in words of one syllable (I'm sure he MEANT to be polite). What stuck with me was the need to make it simple for most kids to stay in school longer, and that it's easier to recruit teachers to schools with sixth forms. Also, with everyone screaming about traffic, it doesn't make sense to make kids travel. Parents seem to prefer integrated sixth forms too, maybe for the reasons already listed and maybe because they have more confidence in the academic standards of schools with sixth forms.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Ernesto and Hatboy are correct.Lord Harris of Peckham sponsored a Secondary school in Croydon.He put in 1.25million.
Surprise surprise its called "Harris City Technology College"
CTCs were established by the Education Reform Act of 1988-so they predate the City Academy project.They provide secondary education with a high amount of "technology" type vocational courses-dont want kids getting interested in politics do we
.Employers have a direct input into the schools-donating equipment and a role on the governing body.Between 1988 and 1993 fourteen were set up.According to the DfES website the City Academy programme will build on the "success" of the CTCs.Some CTCs may be granted Academy status.
If I get my dates right this means that the City Academy programme was influenced by the Conservative CTCs started in 1988.I dont know why they stopped in 1993.Good to see New Labour thinking outside the box and picking up on Tory educational policy
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Surprise surprise its called "Harris City Technology College"
CTCs were established by the Education Reform Act of 1988-so they predate the City Academy project.They provide secondary education with a high amount of "technology" type vocational courses-dont want kids getting interested in politics do we
.Employers have a direct input into the schools-donating equipment and a role on the governing body.Between 1988 and 1993 fourteen were set up.According to the DfES website the City Academy programme will build on the "success" of the CTCs.Some CTCs may be granted Academy status.If I get my dates right this means that the City Academy programme was influenced by the Conservative CTCs started in 1988.I dont know why they stopped in 1993.Good to see New Labour thinking outside the box and picking up on Tory educational policy
.Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Well, presuming it is now impossible for Lambeth to re-aquire the Effra Parade site, Lambeth are now insisting that a housing development is in scale with existing houses and provides more "affordable" housing than originally proposed by Goldcrest Homes.
The UDP states that building here should infill the terraced style of the street as it was before the school was built. The street was badly bombed in WW2.
Er, perhaps a City Academy could go here? I mean if Lambeth hadn't sold the site.
The UDP states that building here should infill the terraced style of the street as it was before the school was built. The street was badly bombed in WW2.
Er, perhaps a City Academy could go here? I mean if Lambeth hadn't sold the site.
