Nazi Bonehill gets 3 years inside

[bimble]

That CW banner that says 'we must devastate the avenues where the wealthy live ' it's been around for years hasn't it, taken for walks .. I don't know.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I didn't say there was a point in #73. You seemed to make an observation in #73 that a rich judge would be as offended by the "New homes for the rich" stunt as a Jewish person might be by a campaign describing them as weeds that must be eradicated. It's at best a clumsy analogy, it's also a stupid one considering Bonehill has been imprisoned and no one at CW has seen any action for the "New homes for the rich" posters.

Which made your "point" in post #79 confusing.

Well I'm saying there definitely was a point to post #73. It wasn't the point you took from it though. The observation I was making was that the level of 'offence' necessary for a prosecution to go ahead depends on political considerations. If it is politically desirable for a prosecution to go ahead, then you can be damn sure those in a position to bring people to court will be as offended as possible.

 

[Fingers]

Jesus Christ! Am I somehow not being clear here? You don't get to decide if X, Y, or Z person is taken to court over their offensive material. You or me taking offence is irrelevant, however objectively offensive something might be. These laws are always and everywhere used as a political tool. They will be used against the left.

Calm down. As i said, when the left start deploying such extreme tactics as Mr Bonehill they will have something to worry about. They have a way to go yet.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Calm down. As i said, when the left start deploying such extreme tactics as Mr Bonehill they will have something to worry about. They have a way to go yet.

I give up.

 

[keybored]

Well I'm saying there definitely was a point to post #73. It wasn't the point you took from it though. The observation I was making was that the level of 'offence' necessary for a prosecution to go ahead depends on political considerations. If it is politically desirable for a prosecution to go ahead, then you can be damn sure those in a position to bring people to court will be as offended as possible.

I'm not sure where we have our wires crossed, I don't trust the authorities any more than you do but sometimes "it is what it is". Joshua Bonehill was going out of his way to incite hatred towards groups of people that have historically put up with this shit in a big way, and he's had form for it already (including a suspended sentence). So now he's in prison and fuck him afaic. I find all this hand-wringing over "freedom of speech" a bit much when it comes to this guy.

 

[Azrael]

The law (Public Order Act, 1986, s.18) specifically bans inciting racial hatred:-

(1) A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or
(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.

Since the class war poster isn't doing that, its authors can breathe easy, at least where this law's concerned.

 

[Azrael]

He's done worse than trolling for sure but should we really be celebrating the state locking him up on the basis of what he thinks?

He's scum for sure but how long before they're pulling in antifa etc on similar grounds?

He wasn't locked up on the basis of what he thinks: he was locked up for trying to incite an "anti-Jewification event" in Golders Green. I don't agree with laws against hate speech, but if the law didn't exist, that could easily be framed as threatening behavior, or inciting violence.

 

[Fingers]

He is probably regretting penning this rather wank poem this evening.


I want to go to prison,
The Jews will make sure of this.
A place of great vision,
and a stronghold of ideological bliss.
I belong in prison.

To mention the Jew, a crime no less,
A guilty plea, I do confess.
My punishment and recognition awaits,
As I enter Prisons’ gates.
I belong in prison.

The Talmudic tyrant moves to silence,
My words are his greatest enemy.
The eternal Jew hates my defiance,
And so Prison becomes my destiny.
I belong in prison.

Whilst in prison, I will read and write,
To return to freedom with great insight.
The Jew will not silence me,
I will only grow stronger, he will see!
I belong in prison.

A chance to grow and build my strength,
A time to preach and speak the truth.
The prison sentence is no length,
It’ll win me votes at the polling booth!
I belong in prison.

In actual fact we’re all in prison,
Forced into Politically correct submission,
The future of our race is at stake,
we’re being strangled by that Jewish snake.
I belong in prison.

A time has come to fight with fire,
for at present our hopes are pretty dire.
With fury and truth we shall prevail,
and save our race from the flail.
I belong in prison.

When released I will lead the way,
For a great truth movement shall arise.
they may oppress us in the world of Today,
but my freedom shall mark their demise.
I belong in prison.

The day of the Jew has been and gone,
their Talmudic hate will be no more.
Goyim arise, don’t be the pawn,
take back what is yours and go to war.
I belong in prison.

A few months or a few years, we shall see,
A prison sentence will bring me much glee.
The ultimate victory is mine for the taking,
that being, our race awakening!
I belong in prison.

Joshua Bonehill

Joshua Bonehill: I belong in Prison

 

[Azrael]

Racist doggerel, ick.

 

[bimble]

Such rhyming .

 

[keybored]

He is probably regretting penning this rather wank poem

Or it'll be cited later on as some validation for his persecution/Messiah complex.

 

[frogwoman]

He's going to write My struggle against four years of Lies, stupidity, cowardice and people who gently hint that I should put my creative talents somewhere other than poetry

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

He's going to write My struggle against four years of Lies, stupidity, cowardice and people who gently hint that I should put my creative talents somewhere other than poetry

I bet this is how young Adolf felt when people mocked his attempt at painting.

 

[frogwoman]

A time has come to fight with fire,
for at present our hopes are pretty dire.
With fury and truth we shall prevail,
and save our race from the flail.
I belong in prison.

I take it back maybe he should go jail after all for that bit of doggerel

 

[Fingers]

The judge's statement

"The document posted on the web is about as inflammatory a document as I will ever see".

“You were trying to encourage people, especially young people, to join in a demonstration in Golders Green against what you call ‘Jewification’. You did all you could to inflame the Jewish community to provoke a reaction from them.”

On his previous campaigns, the judge said: “It displays your ability and desire to use the web as a means to cause anguish and anxiety to others.

“Perhaps you will reach a state of maturity at some point at some point and you will realise what you’ve done endangers, rather than supports, free speech. You are coming to the point where you are a danger to society.

“You are an intelligent man, and society can only hope that you will mature and start to realise the responsibility that comes with freedom of speech.”

 

[bimble]

“You are an intelligent man..”

 

[Belushi]

He is probably regretting penning this rather wank poem this evening.


I want to go to prison,
The Jews will make sure of this.
A place of great vision,
and a stronghold of ideological bliss.
I belong in prison.

To mention the Jew, a crime no less,
A guilty plea, I do confess.
My punishment and recognition awaits,
As I enter Prisons’ gates.
I belong in prison.

The Talmudic tyrant moves to silence,
My words are his greatest enemy.
The eternal Jew hates my defiance,
And so Prison becomes my destiny.
I belong in prison.

Whilst in prison, I will read and write,
To return to freedom with great insight.
The Jew will not silence me,
I will only grow stronger, he will see!
I belong in prison.

A chance to grow and build my strength,
A time to preach and speak the truth.
The prison sentence is no length,
It’ll win me votes at the polling booth!
I belong in prison.

In actual fact we’re all in prison,
Forced into Politically correct submission,
The future of our race is at stake,
we’re being strangled by that Jewish snake.
I belong in prison.

A time has come to fight with fire,
for at present our hopes are pretty dire.
With fury and truth we shall prevail,
and save our race from the flail.
I belong in prison.

When released I will lead the way,
For a great truth movement shall arise.
they may oppress us in the world of Today,
but my freedom shall mark their demise.
I belong in prison.

The day of the Jew has been and gone,
their Talmudic hate will be no more.
Goyim arise, don’t be the pawn,
take back what is yours and go to war.
I belong in prison.

A few months or a few years, we shall see,
A prison sentence will bring me much glee.
The ultimate victory is mine for the taking,
that being, our race awakening!
I belong in prison.

Joshua Bonehill

Joshua Bonehill: I belong in Prison

I love shit fascist poetry, faber should produce an anthology.

 

[likesfish]

It's good to see a patriot standing up for traditional nazi values none of this fly by night nonsense about Muslims when the real problem has and always will be the jews.
I for one await his prison memoirs with baited breath England prevails

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Once it gets to the point where violence is being incited, then obviously the law should step in, and to be fair, with some of the stuff he has said he has come close to doing that. I still can't help feel uneasy about the idea of people being locked up for being offensive, as offensiveness is a pretty subjective and wide-ranging concept. These laws regarding inciting hatred are no better, and they are never applied consistently anyway. Just look at what Katie Hopkins gets away with.

How much closer to inciting violence do you want his 'anti-jewification' campaign to get; what sort of party do you think the kids are being invited to?

Louis MacNeice

 

[JimW]

I love shit fascist poetry, faber should produce an anthology.

Faber editor TS Eliot was another anti-Semite though his poetry was a bit better.

 

[bimble]

Can't stop going back to his website, it's full of treasure:

"These lands – that now native folk such as myself have been banished from walking upon – have been occupied by our people since ancient times and never will we compromise for tyranny. .
In the name of Free Speech – a fundamental civil right – I personally shall march from Yeovil to Golders Green ".

 

[JimW]

If you were asked to name the cradle of revolution not many would say Yeovil.

 

[bimble]

Less funny: Is straight out holocaust denial against the law these days ?

*EDIT/ answers own question*
UK was key in making it not quite so in the EU:

'Full implementation was blocked by the UK and the Nordic countries because of the need to balance the restrictions on voicing racist opinions against the freedom of expression... As a result a compromise has been reached; while the EU has not prohibited Holocaust denial outright, a maximum term of three years in jail is optionally available to all member nations for "denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes."

(Bonehill definitely guilty of the above)

 

[Idris2002]

I bet this is how young Adolf felt when people mocked his attempt at painting.

And the flames rose,
to his Aryan nose,
and his moustache started to melt.

 

[Pickman's model]

And the flames rose,
to his Aryan nose,
and his moustache started to melt.

tbh he looks like any 'tache he grew would be of the wispy variety at best and not the full hitler.

 

[Pickman's model]

(Bonehill definitely guilty of the above)

yes, in the high court of bimble.

 

[bimble]

yes, in the high court of bomble.

Nah, his website.. he's very clear that the whole story of "shoageddon" is a a scam invented by the Elders to, you know, make money.
He says " The Holocaust has to be the single most hilarious incident that never happened in history. The idea that Jews were gassed in rooms that had wooden doors, or the fact that the Jews would have us believe 150 of them were cremated at Auschwitz every hour–comical!" and so on..

 

[Pickman's model]

Nah, his website.. he's very clear that the whole story of "shoageddon" is a a scam invented by the Elders to, you know, make money.
He says " The Holocaust has to be the single most hilarious incident that never happened in history. The idea that Jews were gassed in rooms that had wooden doors, or the fact that the Jews would have us believe 150 of them were cremated at Auschwitz every hour–comical!" and so on..

i see you're judge, jury and prosecutor in the high court of bimble.

i can see the headlines now: "national socialist in holocaust denial shocker"

 

[bimble]

i see you're judge, jury and prosecutor in the high court of bimble.
i can see the headlines now: "national socialist in holocaust denial shocker"

I am! As are you in yours.
But anyway, think the law around it is interesting & was glad to learn that UK stood in the way of the EU criminalising every instance of it.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am! As are you in yours.
But anyway, think the law around it is interesting & was glad to learn that UK stood in the way of the EU criminalising against every instance of it.

it is always interesting to me how many fascists think eichmann and his ilk were incompetent. but what other views do you think should be criminalised?