Nationality and Borders Bill

[danny la rouge]

Wasn’t sure exactly where this should be posted so I started a thread. It’s an important topic that deserves a thread anyway.

This article describes the deliberate Catch 22 refugees are snared in:

The Nationality and Borders Bill – horrifying and dehumanising - Anarchist Communist Group

The Nationality and Borders Bill passed through the House of Commons on 8th December 2021, with barely a flicker of recognition from the national news agenda. But this dehumanising legislation deserves our attention and our indignant rage. The legislation makes it much easier to deny asylum...

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[Pickman's model]

Wasn’t sure exactly where this should be posted so I started a thread. It’s an important topic that deserves a thread anyway.

This article describes the deliberate Catch 22 refugees are snared in:

The Nationality and Borders Bill – horrifying and dehumanising - Anarchist Communist Group

The Nationality and Borders Bill passed through the House of Commons on 8th December 2021, with barely a flicker of recognition from the national news agenda. But this dehumanising legislation deserves our attention and our indignant rage. The legislation makes it much easier to deny asylum...

www.anarchistcommunism.org

not just refugees but also anyone who has naturalised british citizenship (as opposed from uk nationality from birth) - they can have it whipped away from them without notice under this legislation: that's millions of people, very many of them black or brown. this creates a very real second class of citizenship.

 

[Balbi]

Dual citizens as well, it looks like.

 

[danny la rouge]

Dual citizens as well, it looks like.

Born or naturalised? (My brother is a dual citizen, but is UK born).

 

[Balbi]

I think it might be naturalised, but I also think they can strip anyone's citizenship now (and have had those powers for a while)

The uglier bit of this ugly bill is the creation of off-shore immigration processing, going full Aussie cunt with prison island facilities and brutal shit like that.

 

[captainmission]

Born or naturalised? (My brother is a dual citizen, but is UK born).

The Nationality and Borders Bill doesn't propose to change the category of people who can be deprived of citizenship. The people who can be deprived of citizenship are;
-people who obtained their registration or naturalisation as a result of fraud,
-since 2002 people (whether born or naturalised British) who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good - as long as that doesn't make them stateless
-since 2014 people who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good even if that makes them stateless as long as their citizenship status results from the person's naturalisation and the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds for believing that the person is able to become a national of another country.

Before depriving someone of citizenship Secretary of State needs to give notice. The Nationality and Borders Bill seeks to change so they don't have to give notice if not reasonably practicable. Their seeking to do this following loosing a court case in which the home office tried to argue that they'd serve notice by placing it on a private file in the Home Office.

It doesn't create a a very real second class of citizenship, because that was already done in 2002.

 

[bluescreen]

The Nationality and Borders Bill doesn't propose to change the category of people who can be deprived of citizenship. The people who can be deprived of citizenship are;
-people who obtained their registration or naturalisation as a result of fraud,
-since 2002 people (whether born or naturalised British) who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good - as long as that doesn't make them stateless
-since 2014 people who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good even if that makes them stateless as long as their citizenship status results from the person's naturalisation and the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds for believing that the person is able to become a national of another country.

Before depriving someone of citizenship Secretary of State needs to give notice. The Nationality and Borders Bill seeks to change so they don't have to give notice if not reasonably practicable. Their seeking to do this following loosing a court case in which the home office tried to argue that they'd serve notice by placing it on a private file in the Home Office.

It doesn't create a a very real second class of citizenship, because that was already done in 2002.

You mean, Blunkett?

Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002

An Act to make provision about nationality, immigration and asylum; to create offences in connection with international traffic in prostitution; to make provision about international projects connected with migration; and for connected purposes.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Section 4

And this anti-terrorism hysteria?

David Blunkett on Britishness, race and identity

In this major new essay, David Blunkett sets out the political philosophy which has guided his controversial decisions as Home Secretary, and argues that an integrated society needs immigrants to be able to speak English at home.

www.theguardian.com

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

The Nationality and Borders Bill doesn't propose to change the category of people who can be deprived of citizenship. The people who can be deprived of citizenship are;
-people who obtained their registration or naturalisation as a result of fraud,
-since 2002 people (whether born or naturalised British) who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good - as long as that doesn't make them stateless
-since 2014 people who the Secretary of State is satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the public good even if that makes them stateless as long as their citizenship status results from the person's naturalisation and the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds for believing that the person is able to become a national of another country.

Before depriving someone of citizenship Secretary of State needs to give notice. The Nationality and Borders Bill seeks to change so they don't have to give notice if not reasonably practicable. Their seeking to do this following loosing a court case in which the home office tried to argue that they'd serve notice by placing it on a private file in the Home Office.

It doesn't create a a very real second class of citizenship, because that was already done in 2002.

fair enough but you definitely need to emphasise somewhere in your post they are cunts as DLR has done because you aren't selling that angle very well, you only clarify it in the last 6 words of your post and you don't exactly do it very aggressively

cheers comrade

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Thanks DLR I posted this in the Orkney Refugee group that no one reads anymore as everyone is burst- we all defo need a conversation on post covid engagement at some point that attempts to go beyond "all those visiting their mum when told not to are cunts"

very difficult times for drumming up solidarity

 

[SpookyFrank]

Dual citizens as well, it looks like.

Mrs Frank has had to seriously think about renouncing her original citizenship. Not just because of this law but also earlier, sneakier changes to passport rules etc. Being a naturalised UK citizen is no longer a guarantee of anything much.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

To spell out the Catch 22; If you have been convicted of a crime you may have your asylum application rejected on the basis that you are criminal. It is a crime to arrive in the UK without documents.

Utter scum.

 

[teqniq]

Good decision by the court here:

UK unlawfully stripped woman of citizenship without telling her – court

Ruling against Home Office comes as government tries to remove requirement to give notice in some circumstances

www.theguardian.com

but:

The court of appeal has ruled that the UK government acted unlawfully when it stripped a British woman of her citizenship without telling her.

By a two to one majority, the justices upheld a high court ruling that the failure to notify the woman, known as D4, that her citizenship had been removed until the government was contacted by her lawyers nullified the decision.

The home secretary had argued that notification had been given to D4, who has been detained in the Roj camp in Syria since January 2019, by simply placing a note on her Home Office file, relying on regulations introduced without parliamentary approval.

Fuckers.

 

[teqniq]

Utter cunts.

‘Outsourcing’ of migrants to Rwanda edges closer

 

[Pickman's model]

Utter cunts.

‘Outsourcing’ of migrants to Rwanda edges closer

if we can outsource things there perhaps our parliament doesn't even need to be in the uk while the palace of westminster is refurbished

 

[Dystopiary]

The queen will sign off anything won't she. Wish people who defend her would remember this. She absolutely does have a choice - imagine how good it would be if she made a public statement saying, nah, not putting my name to this cruel shit (as if).

 

[Wilf]

Just listened to as much of johnson's press conference as my stomach could stand. Utter fucking racist cunts. The NF used to have a slogan. 'if they're black, send them back'. His innovative approach is 'if they're black, send them back to... somewhere else'. As well as the direct racism in this, nothing better illustrates the core/periphery or 1st world/'3rd world' divide than the idea that we can reject people and then pay somebody else to process them for their 'young dynamic economy' (he used a phrase something along these lines).

It's also a joke that this will serve to deter people smugglers.

 

[teqniq]

Please sign and share:

Detention Action

detentionaction.e-activist.com

 

[danny la rouge]

This article places the Rwanda deportation plan in context in an analysis of government policy:

Boiling a frog – the Tory march to authoritarianism - Anarchist Communist Group

The hard-faced audacity of the government’s plan to send refugees to Rwanda shocked many, and this headline-grabbing gall led many commentators to believe it was a dead cat: an attempt to divert attention away from the party-gate fines in Downing Street. While it no doubt helped, the party-gate...

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