Nagorno-Karabakh kicking off again
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
try to stop you what?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Idaho
blah blah blah
No one here is stopping anyone, we are discussing. Your strident and aggressive statements suggest that people of a like mind to you might well be the problem.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Sorry I wont discuss whether 2x2=4 or not. This is not aggression, but putting an end to the nonsense.
JimW
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State of your economy you'd be better off worrying about the livelihoods of Turkish people than bullying your neighbours, though suppose it takes people's minds off what a failure Erdogan has been.
Appearently we have passed the second phase of a lost debate, start arguing off topic subjects. Thanks we still have not passed to the third stage, personal attacks. Such posts only cause you to end up in my ignore list.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the thing is that you've been invited to make a case. and in the final stage of a lost debate - whiffling about the subject rather than actually addressing it - you seem reluctant to argue your corner. so for me the loser of the debate here is you.
JimW
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Was there a debate? Missed you making any actual points.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's debateable whether he can put an argument
not-bono-ever
meh
and it’s off again. Looks like turkey is stirring the regional pot with its newly expanded drone industry. A few deaths, many more injured. Nothing to see here. Turkey proxy stuff probably needs a thread of its own now
JimW
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Armenia preparing to give it up, Azeris already have a check-point on the Lachin Corridor: https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89635
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Unfortunately things are really kicking off here this morning.
Details at this point unclear but heavy gunfire heard and hostilities appear to have resumed.
A tragic waste.
Details at this point unclear but heavy gunfire heard and hostilities appear to have resumed.
A tragic waste.
Bingoman
Well-Known Member
the last time this happened Russia intervened and side with Armenia, but this time Russia have their hands full with the Ukraine
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
& Simonyan is vocally blaming the Armenians for this on twitter
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
the last time this happened Russia intervened and side with Armenia, but this time Russia have their hands full with the Ukraine
Russia’s not too pleased with Armenia donating weapons to Ukraine so looks like they’re on their own
Russia’s not too pleased with Armenia donating weapons to Ukraine so looks like they’re on their own
JimW
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Local forces capitulate: Azerbaijan claims full control over the Nagorno-Karabakh region as Armenian forces agree to disarm
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
Armenia throwing the towel in as easy as that and throwing their own people under the bus sounds as dodgy as fuck
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Do you have any inside knowledge you'd like to share?
I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
No, I don’t have any inside knowledge but as Armenia seems to be moving away from Russia and closer to the West the next step would be an invitation to join NATO. Armenia wouldn’t be allowed to join NATO while in was in a conflict with any neighbouring country and this is why I think they’ve let Nagorno-Karabakh go
JimW
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Journalist's account of growing up in Nagorno-Karabakh during the wars: Living Through War and Waiting for Peace in Nagorno-Karabakh
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Statements from an Armenian anarchist and a Russian exile in Armenia (does also include a statement from Azerbaijan but that's a recycled one from 2020):
crimethinc.com
Anarchist Voices from Armenia and Azerbaijan
This week, a new round of violence broke out over the contested zone of Nagorno-Karabakh, also known as Artsakh, an Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan. Anarchists from Armenia, Russia, and Azerbaijan s...
JimW
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Russia chucked them under the bus to humiliate Armenia that has pivoted to the West in this take https://carnegieeurope.eu/2023/09/22/tragic-endgame-in-karabakh-pub-90620
Turkey would veto any Armenian attempt to join NATO.
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
Yes, For sure they would, Both Turkey and Russia would veto any Armenian attempt to join NATO
Turkey with the pen, Russia with the sword.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
"At the moment 100,000 people left Artsakh and most of them don't have nothing with them. They only took a few clothes and that's it."
At least 3/4 of the population had left as of yesterday (30/9/23).
Armenians describe journey to safety after fall of their homeland
Independent article archived here.
At least 3/4 of the population had left as of yesterday (30/9/23).
Armenians describe journey to safety after fall of their homeland
Independent article archived here.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
It seems this takeover of Nagorno Karabakh was allowed/encouraged by Moscow. Long term diplomatic strategy, good or bad, overturned in a very short time frame. Doesn't exactly encourage Ukraine to sit down and negotiate.
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