Nagorno-Karabakh kicking off again

[Kevbad the Bad]

Every 'people' in the Middle East, Near East etc are the descendants of refugees or conquerors or slaves or migrants or nomads. If we decide that the only ones allowed to live anywhere are the original inhabitants then we'd have to recreate the Neanderthals.

 

[Serge Forward]

Armenians are not natives of the region, they have a kinship tie with Greeks. They cant understand ancient Urartu inscriptions while Chechens understand.

THE ANCIENT KINGDOM OF PAIONIA * / Το αÏÏαίο βαÏίλειο ÏÎ·Ï Î Î±Î¹Î¿Î½Î¯Î±Ï*

Very little has been written about the Paionians, and whatever has been written is mostly undocumented and pitifully inadequate, if not o...

macedonianissues.blogspot.com

Fuck off, you nationalist tit.

 

[JimW]

Latest reports of the ceasefire breakdown I've read make it look like this could really spiral; one scenario has a beefed up Azeri military pushing Armenia into a corner where it attacks oil infrastructure, responses targeted against Armenia proper draw in the Russians and then Turkey is in more openly too.

Nagorno-Karabakh fighting raises threat of deadly escalation

MOSCOW (AP) — A Russian attempt to broker a cease-fire to end the worst outbreak of hostilities over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh in more than a quarter-century has failed to get any traction, with rivals Azerbaijan and Armenia trading blame for new attacks.

apnews.com

 

[teqniq]

Does not just focus on this conflict but also Libya

The Syrian Mercenaries Fighting Foreign Wars for Russia and Turkey | Elizabeth Tsurkov

“They sent us directly to the front lines. The situation is terrible. Terrible. There is fighting every day. We are charged with storming. There is no

www.nybooks.com

 

[not-bono-ever]

Bellingcat on the prisoner execution video

An Execution in Hadrut - bellingcat

A video has appeared purporting to show Azerbaijani soldiers executing two Armenian POWs in Nagorno-Karabakh. Azerbaijani officials dismiss it as fake news, but open sources suggest it is all too real.

www.bellingcat.com

 

[JimW]

Wonder if this peace deal will hold? Seems the Azeris had taken the upper hand and forced Armenians to an agreement but the gains aren't everything they wanted are they? Russian peacekeepers ought to hold it for a while at least, but surely every chance of a breather and then at it again.

Armenia, Azerbaijan agree to end fight in Nagorno-Karabakh

YEREVAN, Armenia (AP) — Armenia and Azerbaijan announced an agreement early Tuesday to halt fighting over the Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan under a pact signed with Russia that calls for deployment of nearly 2,000 Russian peacekeepers and territorial concessions.

apnews.com

Missed the Azeris shooting down a Russian helicopter.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Yep as yer link says, Azeris caught bang to rights on the chopper downing. Russia sending 2000 peacekeepers to hold the line it seems - the Azeri see it as a victory as they have grabbed a bit more territory and the Turks are happy to have stuck the knife into Armenia again.could be tricky fir the Armenian administration now

 

[frogwoman]

 

[not-bono-ever]

Turkey is administering the azerification of occupied provinces as part of the arrangement

 

[eatmorecheese]

Nagorno-Karabakh: Villagers burn their homes ahead of peace deal

Residents of Kalbajar district raze properties before deadline for disputed territory to be returned to Azerbaijan

www.theguardian.com

Burning their houses before moving away. Wouldn't be surprised if they are exhuming graves to take, fearing desecration. Feels Bosnian. Necrowar.

 

[not-bono-ever]

The taunting of each other and willingness for symbolic acts is pretty much ingrained between the players. The mosque in Aghdam was stripped of its decoration and used for flooring in Armenian gaffs. It has been used as a pigpen amongst other things since the war and change of ownership to NK hands. Desecrating a few graves is the least that could be expected from the new owners.

 

[not-bono-ever]

And we are off again. Armenia has requested Russian assistance based on an old mutual defence agreement

 

[Dystopiary]

The main gas pipeline from Armenia to Artsakh has been cut off, so Artsakh now has no gas supply.

 

[Dystopiary]

People still have no gas in Arsakh since Azerbaijani Forces damaged the gas pipeline from from Armenia to Artsakh. I don't know much about this conflict, but eight days without gas in such a cold climate is a big deal, and there doesn't seem to be much coverage of this. It seems that noone's allowed to try and fix the pipeline. Does anyone know a reliable current news site source on this issue?

 

[Dystopiary]

As of yesterday the gas is back on in Artsakh. Such a relief when temperatures are so low there.



I'll quote this in its entirity, as it's a quote graphic which some people might not be able to read.

"Today natural gas supply has been finally fully restored in Artsakh.

It took 12 freezing days to restore the single gas pipeline that comes from Armenia to Artsakh. Some parts of the pipeline are apparently in the neutral zone, not the control of Azerbaijan. The accident that took place on that pipeline happened in a neutral zone but Azeri forces wouldn't let Artsakhgaz workers fix it during all this time, by threatening them with violence. Previously, Azeri forces had shot at a group of unarmed civilians, plumbers, doing maintenance work near Shushi under RPF supervision, in a neutral zone, and had killed 1 and wounded 3 of them. They have now fixed the pipeline and we have warm water and heating again. The details of the accidents are still unclear but it was allegedly caused by the Azeri side."

 

[Dystopiary]

No gas again. Schools have been closed due to no heating. The EU have voiced "concern", and called on "authorities in control" (note how vague this is) to bring gas back to Nagorno-Karabakh (again, without using that term) -

 

[Dystopiary]

Nothing on the BBC, unfortunately. Can't find anything about this on any of the main UK news outlets.

 

[Sasaferrato]

And I don't suppose the Armenians have any great affection for the Turks

Understandably so.

 

[Turkic755]

If these people behave well and innocently they will find us quite soft with them but the facts are not as in the media propaganda, these people are quite aggressive and unfriendly. Dont be fooled by their crying when they are beaten.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Oh

 

[Idaho]

If these people behave well and innocently they will find us quite soft with them but the facts are not as in the media propaganda, these people are quite aggressive and unfriendly. Dont be fooled by their crying when they are beaten.

Wow, where to begin with that.

 

[tonysingh]

Wow, where to begin with that.

By telling him to fuck off

 

[DaveCinzano]

"Will Mrs 755 please come to the Customer Service desk, your child has shit itself, Mrs 755 to the Customer Service desk please"

 

[Turkic755]

Karabakh was recognized by the UN as Azeri territory. I think this is enough for the beginning and also for the end of debate.

Wow, where to begin with that.

 

[frogwoman]

Oh dear.

 

[Pickman's model]

Karabakh was recognized by the UN as Azeri territory. I think this is enough for the beginning and also for the end of debate.

you might want to revisit the meaning of general assembly resolutions

 

[Turkic755]

So what do you think is an institution or thing that we should consider as a decision maker about the subject ? If you are implying you dont accept UN based democratic decision.

you might want to revisit the meaning of general assembly resolutions

 

[Pickman's model]

So what do you think is an institution or thing that we should consider as a decision maker about the subject ? If you are implying you dont accept UN based democratic decision.

 

[Pickman's model]

So what do you think is an institution or thing that we should consider as a decision maker about the subject ? If you are implying you dont accept UN based democratic decision.

further to the reality that un ga resolutions are not binding, i don't believe the united nations is a democratic body. if you disagree perhaps you could set out your rationale.

 

[Turkic755]

Okay, if its not binding there is nothing to talk. Try to stop us.

further to the reality that un ga resolutions are not binding, i don't believe the united nations is a democratic body. if you disagree perhaps you could set out your rationale.