colin37400 said:This reminds me of an argument about when you can say "I'm going up to London" ....
From Croydon, yes.
From brighton, yes.
From Stevenage ... yes, apparently
From Glasgow, no. You're definitely going down to London.
From Birmingham, I don't think so. Controversial.
From Oxford ... maybe.
by train, towards London is always "up". So you take the up train down from Glasgow, and when you go back up to Oxford at the start of term you take the down train.
But no one ever goes "up" to Birmingham.