My electricity bill has just tripled: how about yours? Alternative suppliers?
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cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
A regional different of a couple of pence a day is bad enough, but that's outrageous.
20Bees
Well-Known Member
Comparison websites, much of a muchness, yes? Not SimplySwitch.
I’m getting broadly similar results from moneysupermarket, gocompare and uswitch, all coming up with outfoxthemarket as cheapest at £803/year variable against EDF’s £885/year. OVO a few pence less but with boiler cover and um no, I don’t think they’re going to cover my 37 year old oil boiler. So around £67/month vs EDF £74ish.
SimplySwitch have Bristol Energy BE Super Green August 23 Issue 15 fixed for 25 months at £45.15. Didn’t they go bust?
And ESB Energy, £48/month… or Scottish Power, £79.47/mth fixed for 10 months or - wow! - £183.02/mth fixed for 4 months or £265.66/mth fixed for 3 months… WTAF??
I’m getting broadly similar results from moneysupermarket, gocompare and uswitch, all coming up with outfoxthemarket as cheapest at £803/year variable against EDF’s £885/year. OVO a few pence less but with boiler cover and um no, I don’t think they’re going to cover my 37 year old oil boiler. So around £67/month vs EDF £74ish.
SimplySwitch have Bristol Energy BE Super Green August 23 Issue 15 fixed for 25 months at £45.15. Didn’t they go bust?
And ESB Energy, £48/month… or Scottish Power, £79.47/mth fixed for 10 months or - wow! - £183.02/mth fixed for 4 months or £265.66/mth fixed for 3 months… WTAF??
20Bees
Well-Known Member
I am with Octopus, and mine is 28.10p per kWh and SC is 45.57p per day.
Good to see they are charging you northern monkeys more than us civilised people on the south coast.
I guess East Anglia’s kinda middling
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Well, yeah, you are not too far up north.
20Bees
Well-Known Member
Much too far. I moved up from the Surrey / Hampshire border and it feels like Alaska… but flat.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
yes, it was a 1970s / 80s thing. my current flat (as far as i can establish, mid 70s) was fairly obviously built with it, but had been converted to radiators before i moved in.
i'm not convinced it was that great in the house (built about 1982) i had previously - warmest spot in the house was about 2/3 of the way up the stairs. i knew it was really cold weather when the cats took root there...
in other news, i've had e-mail today from co-op / octopus saying the prices are going down from october but my monthly payment is going up (i haven't quite made enough of a dent in the debt that's built up.) will be more than double what i was paying 2 years ago. blargh.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
For those unfortunate enough to be with British Gas (this wouldn't be enough to lure me back to the bastards), enjoy some half-price electricity on Sundays if you have a smart meter.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
electricty theft at record high
it's called abstracting electricity, not theft.
it's called abstracting electricity, not theft.
Leafster
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I think Warm Air heating is common in North America (they call it Forced-Air) and is often combined with AC. I had it in my flat (in the UK) and it worked well. I guess it depends on how well it was implemented.
When I moved here it annoyed me having radiators everywhere especially as it made arranging furniture far more difficult.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Just got my latest bill of £210 which seems a bit high, standing charge is at 62p a day(!) and 30p kw/h.
£20 on standing charge, 611kwh, estimated annual bill £2231. Highest I've ever seen it and we had an electric pool heater before for a few months in the summer (not used for 2 years now) usage was more like 11000kwh and we had 5 people here then
Estimated annual usage is 7425kwh, oil boiler thats only really used for washing up and showers for 4 people. Not had heat on morr than 10 days in about 5 years and then not all day and maxed at 18c.
Interestingly they are suggesting they have smart meter readings. I don't have a smart meter.
On eon next flex which was supposed to be good when I was dumped on it from my last one exploding.
Have to do comparisons if they do those now, every time I looked it was some insane number before
£20 on standing charge, 611kwh, estimated annual bill £2231. Highest I've ever seen it and we had an electric pool heater before for a few months in the summer (not used for 2 years now) usage was more like 11000kwh and we had 5 people here then
Estimated annual usage is 7425kwh, oil boiler thats only really used for washing up and showers for 4 people. Not had heat on morr than 10 days in about 5 years and then not all day and maxed at 18c.
Interestingly they are suggesting they have smart meter readings. I don't have a smart meter.
On eon next flex which was supposed to be good when I was dumped on it from my last one exploding.
Have to do comparisons if they do those now, every time I looked it was some insane number before
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I've never actually seen it not combined with A/C before. I can sort of see the attraction in the UK, because it inherently spits out dry air. Which is a major disadvantage when the ambient's below zero all the winter long (it's often too dry in NA homes in winter - loads of them have humidifiers), but would be quite the boon in the UK. I suppose the other major advantage with summers heating up is that it must be easy to retrofit A/C into one.
Radiators are more efficient and less maintenance intensive (if you've put the right chemicals in), but forced air definitely has its plusses.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
eon have a fixed deal a the moment for existing customers
I'm on flex but super low usage
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Looking around the typical bill is set at 2000ish, for 11500 kwh. Since I'm supposedly using less than 8000 it seems my bill should be lower then that not higher!
Leafster
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When I moved into my flat it still had the original unit which by then was 20 years old. I think it lasted another 10 years before I had it replaced so I get the feeling they last longer than boilers with radiators.
When I had * to replace it the new one came with the option of AC but I didn't think it was worth it. It still had the option of just blowing air around the place without heating it which came in handy on really hot days and, like the old one, had a filter built in to reduce dust and pollutants.
* when I say 'had' to replace it, British Gas said they couldn't get the parts so condemned it. I found out afterwards the parts were available but they just wanted to sell me a replacement!
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
My costs are reducing from the start of October which is good. Might look at getting a fixed deal in case they rise again.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
That's a lot - is your place badly insulated or do you use a lot of energy generally?
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
BIB sadly that's all too common {was something to do with sales / commission targets - a bit like the replace the battery scam a few years ago with certain roadside assistance providers}.When I moved into my flat it still had the original unit which by then was 20 years old. I think it lasted another 10 years before I had it replaced so I get the feeling they last longer than boilers with radiators.
When I had * to replace it the new one came with the option of AC but I didn't think it was worth it. It still had the option of just blowing air around the place without heating it which came in handy on really hot days and, like the old one, had a filter built in to reduce dust and pollutants.
* when I say 'had' to replace it, British Gas said they couldn't get the parts so condemned it. I found out afterwards the parts were available but they just wanted to sell me a replacement!
When we moved here, there was an ancient Valliant LPG boiler installed. Which still worked OK-ish.
At the time, I worked for a consulting engineers, and one of the HVAC guys helped me to initially source some spares that BG said were unavailable {not even difficult to get parts, but the assistance got me a decent trade discounts and access to a trained / certified installer specialising in the make}.
Several years later, the same group of colleagues helped me select an energy-efficient condensing combi that ran on LPG. {and ditto with discounts, etc}
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Ranbay
The same rules apply
shitty house, semi detached cottage type with boiler as old as me, rental so can't do much to it.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Not sure this is the right place for this:-
Went to put my fit meter reading into my energy suppliers website today and noticed that despite having smart meters the electric and gas were estimated. Electric wasn't far out so entered correct reading but gas was out by a factor of 10
Going to have to go back through old bills to see when it changed and then contact them to sort it out.
Went to put my fit meter reading into my energy suppliers website today and noticed that despite having smart meters the electric and gas were estimated. Electric wasn't far out so entered correct reading but gas was out by a factor of 10
Going to have to go back through old bills to see when it changed and then contact them to sort it out.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Did you change supplier at some point? Older smart meters stopped working if you changed supplier as they all had different systems. Newer smart meters are standardised.Not sure this is the right place for this:-
Went to put my fit meter reading into my energy suppliers website today and noticed that despite having smart meters the electric and gas were estimated. Electric wasn't far out so entered correct reading but gas was out by a factor of 10
Going to have to go back through old bills to see when it changed and then contact them to sort it out.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Your bill is basically identical to mine and I haven't used heating in years. Starting to wonder why lol
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Had the smart meters installed through current supplier.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Solved it. Meter reports m3 while smart display shows KWh so I'd have to go into the cellar to read the meter instead of simply looking at the display.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
i'm with octopus through co-op energy
i haven't done a check to see whether i could do better anywhere else for a few years - prices have been up and down like the proverbial (or more accurately, up and up and up and down a little bit and up and up) for a while, so there's a risk of comparing provider who put their prices up last week against provider who's putting them up next week.
haven't really had any issues with them - i do it on the direct debit thing, and they haven't taken the piss (arguably, they have let me build up a chunk of debt and haven't fully kept pace with it all until recently)
i haven't had a need to contact them and argue with them.
are they the ones who occasionally do something so that if someone who's with them recommends them to someone else, then both parties get a bit of money back?
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