iROBOT
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The "we" I refer to is CERTAINLY NOT seen as "children of the book"
Again, what "we" are you refering to?????, 'cause the 'we" I referenced is blindingly obvoius IF YOU FUCKING READ THE THREAD.
Mumbai: coordinated terrorist attacks, westerners targetted
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The "we" I refer to is CERTAINLY NOT seen as "children of the book"
Again, what "we" are you refering to?????, 'cause the 'we" I referenced is blindingly obvoius IF YOU FUCKING READ THE THREAD.
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
actually iRobot, I'm really sorry, I'm alt-tabbing urban75 and you're right.. your 'we' is shirk/kaffir... where as my 'we' is a mixture of 'children of the book' and kaffir...
India's problem is being at the line where the two main types of religion (the karmic, and the abrahamic) meet...
India's problem is being at the line where the two main types of religion (the karmic, and the abrahamic) meet...
iROBOT
CURRENTLY RE-BOOTING
No worries. Nothing personal (btw)
I've just spent a month in India, and know all about the tensions there. It's where a lot of world cultures "clash" (for want of a better word)
Sufi's are cool though, they are much more tolerant and make up a large proportion of Muslims in India. If only the rest of Islam were like them...
hipipol
Peckham Wry
You are an utter twat
No worries. Nothing personal (btw)
I've just spent a month in India, and know all about the tensions there. It's where a lot of world cultures "clash" (for want of a better word)
Sufi's are cool though, they are much more tolerant and make up a large proportion of Muslims in India. If only the rest of Islam were like them...
VHP are you?
Get your communal crap off of here, you loathesome toad
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Really? My religion thinks that a whole load of offences should be punished by death. It also claims to be the word of God.
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
No worries. Nothing personal (btw)
I've just spent a month in India, and know all about the tensions there. It's where a lot of world cultures "clash" (for want of a better word)
Sufi's are cool though, they are much more tolerant and make up a large proportion of Muslims in India. If only the rest of Islam were like them...
In many ways Islam has a lot of tolerance built into it, as well you should know if you have actually read the koran. It's just that this tolerance only extends to other beleivers in the 'oneness' of god. But that's more tolerant than christianity for example.
The thread was moved from general and look what happened
Well yes, but also there is fuck all information (or at least decent information) coming out from India at the moment, so there is not much to comment on.
bi0boy
Power User
How about this?
"A member of the Islamic militant group, Lashkar-e-Toiba, has been captured alive in the Oberoi Trident hotel, the Press Trust of India (PTI) reports. It says 20 to 25 gunmen are believed to have arrived in Mumbai in three inflatable boats, launched from a larger vessel."
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah I saw that but it's unconfirmed and there is an assumption thay they are Islamic millitants.
Also later on the same news feed they say they found nothing unusual on the 'larger vessel'.
So really it's all just rumour and speculation.
ETA - Just been reading up on Lashkar-e-Toiba and have to say they sound utterly bonkers. It seems there long terms aim is to re-instate muslim rule in all of Asia including Russia and China. Total fucking fruitloops!
I've always thought that if a Nuclear war erupts it will be Kashmir that is the spark.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
You don't really know what you're talking about do you?
Religion and politics has always been a bad mix, and it isn't any prettier when Christians or Hindus or Jews do it. Really.
As for what or what is not sanctioned by scripture, that tends to change according to political expediency at the time - in any religion.
I suspect I'm probably talking in terms too subtle for you though. Clearly having just spent a month in India you are an expert on what different religions are like.
If you have any interest in educating yourself about Indian politics, I recommend a book I'm reading at the moment called Temptations of the West by Pankaj Mishra.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Yep, they've got the hang of attracting attention above the noise of the usual international media 'news' bullshit, that's for sure. Stepping back from the horror of it for a moment, you could see these kind of attacks as a development in the story of globalisation - ramping up the terror in order to be noticed above the global hubbub.
iROBOT
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Yeah, I'd have no problems with the Koran if I was a Jew or Xtian...
On a serious note. Tolerance for just one type of mindset isnt tolerant (in my eyes).
Yossarian
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Yeah, I'd have no problems with the Koran if I was a Jew or Xtian...
On a serious note. Tolerance for just one type of mindset isnt tolerant (in my eyes).
Are you pretending to be stupid in order to prove a point or are you just stupid?
Yossarian
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I think they've definitely realized that as far as American news priority works, one American = 5 to 10 British or other Europeans = 100 or more Indians or other non-Europeans, and without American attention their cause is doomed.
iROBOT
CURRENTLY RE-BOOTING
Ouch, that hurt.
I came on here to point out that that Pakistans involment in this is still involvement even if it's rough elements.
But got side tracked into defending a position.
Yossarian
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I don't doubt that some of the people involved in the Mumbai horror are Pakistani, or have been to Pakistan, or whatever, but saying Pakistan as a country is 'involved' is wrong, it's like saying the shadowy hand of Karachi - or Leeds - was behind the London bombings.
iROBOT
CURRENTLY RE-BOOTING
I have countless family in india (Mumbai/Gujarat, various cities/Bangalore...) I'm fluent in Gujarati and Hindi, we (as a family) get Indian newspapers, I talk to my relatives via email/phone, in person. What I'm saying is grass roots and not some academic analysis.
Like it or not.
Thanks for the book recommendation. Will check it out.
This is really quite terrible.
Christianity (i.e. The New Testament) does not say anything about persecuting those who disagree, so I'm not sure what you mean by intolerant. Having said that, too many christians have ignored this and have persecuted regardless.
Christianity (i.e. The New Testament) does not say anything about persecuting those who disagree, so I'm not sure what you mean by intolerant. Having said that, too many christians have ignored this and have persecuted regardless.
What a sad situation, India and their Muslims have enjoyed relative peace amongst themselves and the cancer of Islamic fanaticism had not taken hold among India's Muslims, lets hope it stays that way.
Either way, India is now dragged into the fight against this crude and ignorant ideology. The belief system stuck in the middle ages and spread among the illiterate and destitute by a few educated radicals at the top.
Those educated men not quite smart enough to offer a blueprint of the future.
Either way, India is now dragged into the fight against this crude and ignorant ideology. The belief system stuck in the middle ages and spread among the illiterate and destitute by a few educated radicals at the top.
Those educated men not quite smart enough to offer a blueprint of the future.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Wow, how ignorant can you get?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Mears specialises in memorising neo-con propaganda. It's a pretty good way to get crude and ignorant.
Yossarian
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Everything seems to be spelled right. The man's wrong politically, historically, and grammatically, but I guess he would be marginally more ignorant if he'd have written 'sitaution' or something.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Thing is though, it's hard to imagine a cruder and stupider ideology than that which mears espouses. Makes your average Taliban fanatic seem like an urbane sophisticate.
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