Yossarian
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Looks very grim indeed - more than 600 dead with the toll likely to keep rising and parts of the old city of Marrakech destroyed
More than 1,000 dead in Morocco quake
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planetgeli
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This is awful. I'm seeing streets I was walking down just a few months ago now full of rubble. Marrakech has no internet so can't contact someone I know there.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Yep, there's a lot of people live in those mountains. They are very close to Marrakech, half hour drive. But that's where the epicentre was. This is horrible.
Mr.Bishie
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Just had an update from friends who flew out two days ago, spent the night on the street but are safe! Like you planetgeli, recognising streets that we’ve walked down recently. Grim news 
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Yeah. Because 'economics' according to this report, as opposed to hundreds of dead people. I really hope this is worded badly but I fear not.
platinumsage
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It's an important metric because it informs longer-term response i.e. people losing their homes and remaining homeless because the state is unable to assist rebuilding at the necessary speed and scale. The alert is only orange for fatalities because the estimate was at a level that the state has the resources to cope with. They're very crude initial metrics but their speed of issuance is useful.
Yossarian
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The USGS has a long explainer on why the alert level for economic losses is sometimes higher than the alert level for casualties and why it doesn't mean that economic losses are seen as more important than deaths and injuries, though maybe they should have just come up with a better system instead of making lengthy excuses for the current one
The economic loss and casualty estimations are independent of each other. If the loss of life is expected to exceed 100, then an orange alert is assigned for loss of life, no matter what the economic loss is estimated. The two alerts are then compared, and the higher is always chosen. Thus, for example, if there is a green alert for loss of life, but an orange alert for economic losses, then an overall orange alert is issued ... The system is by no means suggesting that 1,000 lives are equal to $1 billion. Those are simply the numbers chosen for the triggers due to past experiences for response. This system is designed to help relief organizations and response agencies determine the likely impacts of the earthquake as soon after the event as possible
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NoXion
You remain unbroken, for your fight... is Eternal
Awful news. Hopefully there are as few additional casualties as possible.
Potentially daft question; given that Morocco is no stranger to earthquakes, how does the old quarter of cities like Marrakech manage to survive over the centuries? I would have thought they were constructed in a way so as to weather earthquakes, and so that's how they get to become old, but apparently not?
Potentially daft question; given that Morocco is no stranger to earthquakes, how does the old quarter of cities like Marrakech manage to survive over the centuries? I would have thought they were constructed in a way so as to weather earthquakes, and so that's how they get to become old, but apparently not?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Morocco is a relative stranger to earthquakes, 13 in 500 years and 5 of those have come in the 21st century. Marrakech is particularly not used to earthquakes, this is the first centred anywhere near there.
And although Marrakech is sadly damaged, the main deaths and collapses will have happened outside Marrakech where poor people build their homes from mud.
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Does that explain why there is such wide spread destruction & loss of life despite it being 6.8 magnitude?
planetgeli
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Depth is important here I think.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Death toll now over 1,000 (and you can expect it to keep going up).
So thread title needs changing.
There was more interest in Morocco on here when they reached the World Cup Semis.
So thread title needs changing.
There was more interest in Morocco on here when they reached the World Cup Semis.
Cloo
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I first saw the news when I saw gsv's cousin posting on FB that she and her husband were in Marrakech, and their hotel undamaged. I assumed it wasn't that bad/not centred on Marrakech until I read the news, jeez they were lucky.
How awful for everyone living there, that is a dreaful toll.
How awful for everyone living there, that is a dreaful toll.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
The pictures on Al-Jazeera of the mountain villages are horrendous.
weltweit
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If TV crews can get through to them, perhaps there is hope that emergency teams can also.
I had heard that the roads were all blocked with landslides.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It was one lone journalist. And it took him hours to go about 20 miles.
Humberto
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I guess you would worry about people being cut-off and effectively trapped?
AnnO'Neemus
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I haven't seen the footage, was out most of today, but sometimes news broadcasters use newswires footage (from Reuters, AP, Agence France Presse, etc, which might have been sourced from staffers, stringers or freelance or might have been sourced from local media) or then again footage might be UGC (User Generated Content) if eye witnesses send stuff in or if producers spot something online and ask for permission to use footage.
So if you don't actually see their reporter on screen then they're not necessarily there, especially not in the first instance, as it can take a wee while to deploy crew.
Broadcasters will often use newswires or UGC footage in the immediate aftermath for 'B-roll' ie when they cut to video after the news presenter has already been talking for a bit.
- Former broadcast journalist, former Al Jazeera English staffer with a fair amount of experience covering breaking news in the control room.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
They were there. They travelled there. It took them hours.
not-bono-ever
meh
its a rough area in the high atlas around marrakesh. one main / narrow road across the mouintains and down to Ouarzazate. settlements clinging to the hills on the southern side. beautiful place. Cant imagine the situation in the more isolated areas
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
2600 dead now and that will go over 3000. There's villages not reached and nearly 3000 casualties a lot of whom are described as critical.
www.theguardian.com
For scale, this would be like a disaster in the UK that took about 5000 lives.
Morocco earthquake: death toll passes 2,600 as foreign aid teams fly in
Authorities accept help from some countries but other offers not yet taken up as search for survivors runs out of time
For scale, this would be like a disaster in the UK that took about 5000 lives.
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