Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Kaka Tim]

I agree that the CPS wouldn't have charged them unless they had them pretty much bang to rights.

I would just like to say ...
Best. Scandal. Ever.

The Met in the dock.
Murdoch and son run out of town, their bid for BSKyB fucked and their cancerous presence at the heart of british politics a thing of the past.
The Vile brooks looking at prison - probably followed by many others.
Hunt toast.
The tories getting sucked ever deeper into the sleeze.

And a growing possibiltiy that this will finish Cameron off. He's vuneralbe in many differnt parts of this - incriminating e-mails and texts, lieing about meetings,Coulsons lack of security clearence - sooner or later the irrifutable evidence will emerge that proves that he has lied will emerge and he will have to resign.

And its all rather delicioulsy ironic that the toxic 'fact' that released a tidal wave of public disgust, the made an thorough investigation unavoidable - the deleting of milly downers voic mail messages by a NOTW hack - didn't actually happen!

 

[not-bono-ever]

shye has a young un though hasnt she ? Mitigation ?

 

[killer b]

I agree that the CPS wouldn't have charged them unless they had them pretty much bang to rights.

i'd avoid such idle speculation now it's sub judice tbh

 

[laptop]

i'd avoid such idle speculation now it's sub judice tbh

Though it's a matter of public policy that the CPS won't press charges unless they consider conviction more likely than not (unless there are other pressing public policy concerns - which as far as I remember apply mostly to rape charges).

 

[coltrane]

The accused Brooks heading to Lewisham Cop Shop today. She is being charged with being a conspiring pervert.

 

[laptop]

the deleting of milly downer's voice-mail messages by a NOTW hack - didn't actually happen!

Even that is a matter entirely for the you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury.

There is an hypothesis that auto-deletion occurred. There is an hypothesis that a servant of the accused did it to make space - not ruled out by the accused's own statements to date.

 

[killer b]

sure, but there's a difference between 'think they can secure a conviction' and 'had them bang to rights'. if you're happy though, no worries. just thought it worth raising...

 

[Kaka Tim]

I was pointing out that - seeing as Brooks is very well coneccted and will have top drawer legal people, the CPS must be pretty sure of themselves.

 

[DotCommunist]

this has made my morning

 

[Roadkill]

i'd avoid such idle speculation now it's sub judice tbh

Tbh I've not the breath to engage in idle speculation, 'cos I'm still laughing too much.

 

[Wilf]

I know the police got their hands on the laptop, presumably they also retrieved the 'several boxes from the NOTW archive' that were mentioned in the charges? [not sub judice I'd have thought as it was discussed at the time]

 

[Kaka Tim]

Bah - Levesons 'significent statement' was not any sort of bombshell - just some arcane bollocks about procedure.

 

[Wilf]

Bah - Levesons 'significent statement' was not any sort of bombshell - just some arcane bollocks about procedure.

He's shite at drama, wants to get some decent advice from Stalinists about running show trials.

 

[gabi]

i think what he was trying to say under all that waffle was 'don't rely on me to get you off the hook you slimy cunts' (at hunt/cameron)

 

[Kaka Tim]

Going back to the brooks perving of justice - as well as them facing jail if convicted - it all rather strongly suggests that their was some incriminating evidence against them wrt to phone hacking etc - and that now is in the hands of the cops.

 

[Roadkill]

Someone said a page or two back they'd have loved to be a fly on the wall of Rupert Murdoch's office when he got the news. So would I, but I'd also love to have been there to see the Prime Minister's reaction. From his PoV this is not a good development, if only because his mates might end up in chokey.

 

[gabi]

i think he was half-way thru a cabinet meeting when the charges were announced.. presumably he knew before that tho

 

[goldenecitrone]

Cameron can take her cakes when she's in Holloway. LOL.

 

[Wilf]

Cameron can take her cakes when she's in Holloway. LOL.

At least she's nothing to fear from prison. Several NI titles have made it clear over the years that it's real cushy, colour telly and x-boxes. Might even get conjugal visits. Oh, hang on...

 

[Lock&Light]

Bah - Levesons 'significent statement' was not any sort of bombshell - just some arcane bollocks about procedure.

A potential clash with Parliament (in the form of its Speaker) is more than "just some arcane bollocks about procedure" and I think it could be highly significant.

 

[not-bono-ever]

"The former News of the World editor and her husband said in a statement: "We deplore this weak and unjust decision."

lololololololololololololololololololol

 

[Wilf]

Labour must be working furiously on how they allude to this and keep the Cameron-Wade link to the forefront, without looking too opportunistic.

 

[Wilf]

lololololololololololololololololololol

and lots of love to you too.

 

[agricola]

Going back to the brooks perving of justice - as well as them facing jail if convicted - it all rather strongly suggests that their was some incriminating evidence against them wrt to phone hacking etc - and that now is in the hands of the cops.

It doesnt have to mean that - merely doing an act which is intended to pervert the course of justice is enough. Also the Guardian have a bit more detail on the specific charges:

Brooks is accused in one charge of conspiring with her PA, Cheryl Carter, to "remove seven boxes of material from the archives of News International".
In a separate charge she is accused of conspiring with her husband, (Mark, head of security at NI) Hanna, her chauffeur and a security consultant to conceal "documents and computers" from the investigating detectives. All the offences are alleged to have taken place in July last year.
Alison Levitt QC, Starmer's principal legal adviser, said the decision to charge six of the seven individuals arrested over the allegations came after prosecutors applied the two-stage test required of them when making charging decisions.

 

[Wilf]

If I remember corrently, Grant Mitchell used to turn to his solicitor, Marcus, when he was in a pickle. Wonder if he can work his magic?

 

[London_Calling]

tb.

 

[Wilf]

Wonder if the Oxfordshire set will be getting a fighting fund together for the 'Chipping Norton 2'? The usual stuff I suppose, local punk bands playing benefits, tombolas, meat raffles...

 

[DaveCinzano]

...meat raffles...

Poor Raisa

 

[Roadkill]

and lots of love to you too.

 

[yardbird]

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