Misogynist barbarians in Alabama impose forced pregnancy law

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Just a wee reminder, that there are draconian abortion laws in the UK as well, in Northern Ireland. In Gibralter, abortion carries a life sentence.

You beat me to it, thanks CRI

 

[Saunders]

I’m not sure if this link to the campaign to decriminalise abortion in N I has been posted elsewhere on here.
https://nowforni.uk/

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The Governor of Alabama (pictured) signed the bill only hours after it was passed:

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey on Wednesday signed into law a controversial abortion bill that could punish doctors who perform abortions with life in prison.

"Today, I signed into law the Alabama Human Life Protection Act, a bill that was approved by overwhelming majorities in both chambers of the Legislature," said Ivey, a Republican, in a statement. "To the bill's many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians' deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God."

Alabama abortion bill is signed into law - CNNPolitics

A gift from god right up until they're born and then they're an "unfair burden on the state":

State Senator Linda Coleman-Madison proposed an amendment to the bill that would require the state to provide free prenatal and medical care for mothers who had been denied an abortion by the new law. Her amendment was struck down by a vote of 23-6.

“The sin to me is bringing a child into this world and not taking care of them,” Coleman-Madison said. "The sin for me is that this state does not provide adequate care. We don’t provide education. And then when the child is born and we know that mother is indigent and she cannot take care of that child, we don’t provide any support systems for that mother.”

State Senator Vivian Davis Figures proposed three amendments to the bill, one which would require a Medicaid expansion to provide funding for mothers and their young children, another that would require those who voted for the bill to pay for the legal costs of defending it in court and a third to make it illegal for a man to get a vasectomy. All of the amendments were voted down.

Alabama legislators refuse to fund mother and child health care as they ban nearly all abortions

Meanwhile:

Pennsylvania Rep. Tim Murphy has resigned after a report surfaced earlier this week that he had asked an extramarital lover to end her pregnancy.

Murphy, a Republican who co-sponsored a 20-week abortion ban that passed in the House Tuesday, allegedly asked his lover to terminate her pregnancy, according to text message records acquired by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported Shannon Edwards, 32, whom Murphy recently admitted to having an affair with, messaged the 65-year-old congressman after an anti-abortion statement was posted on his office’s Facebook account in January.

"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," allegedly wrote Edwards in a text exchange that was a part of a number of documents obtained by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Anti-abortion Rep. Tim Murphy resigns after report he asked lover to end pregnancy

 

[DexterTCN]

Sam Bee has done a segment on the ignorance involved in this.

 

[CRI]

Powerful responses from some of the Alabama Senators who voted against the ban pushed through by 25 white male Senators. At the end, one pleads with the Governor not so sign, but the busted her ass to get ink on paper as fast as she could.

So basically, most people convicted of raping children will get less than 10 years, perhaps 20 jail time. But if the victim gets pregnant as a result and has an abortion, she could be locked up for life. Something is wrong with this picture.

 

[CRI]

And now fucking Missouri, too.

Missouri abortion law: Senate passes "one of the strongest" measures in nation; Democrat says bill is "shaming women" - CBS News

Missouri's Republican-led Senate has passed a wide-ranging bill to ban abortions at eight weeks of pregnancy, acting only hours after Alabama's governor signed a near-total abortion ban into law. The Missouri bill needs another vote of approval in the GOP-led House before it can go to Republican Gov. Mike Parson, who voiced support for an earlier version Wednesday.

It includes exceptions for medical emergencies, but not for pregnancies caused by rape or incest. Doctors would face five to 15 years in prison for violating the eight-week cutoff. Women who receive abortions wouldn't be prosecuted.

Supporters say the Alabama bill is intentionally designed to conflict with the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion nationally in hopes of sparking a court case that might prompt the justices to revisit abortion rights.

Missouri's bill also includes an outright ban on abortions except in cases of medical emergencies. But unlike Alabama's, it would kick in only if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

 

[Ming]

It’s because the right’s got a majority on the Supreme Court now. The Republicans know you’ve got to keep the evangelical base happy. They don’t give a shit about women’s health or probably Christianity. Just power and money.

 

[Yossarian]

I don't have much respect for the Catholic church's position on abortion but at least they are reasonably consistent about the sanctity of life.

Alabama's governor, meanwhile, is happy to sign this draconian abortion law then sign a death warrant for a condemned man literally the next day.

Alabama man executed for helping commit a quadruple killing

 

[likesfish]

but dont worry your unwanted child can always die in a school shooting strangely the pro-life republicans don't want any control on who has access to firearms

 

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[Yuwipi Woman]

but dont worry your unwanted child can always die in a school shooting strangely the pro-life republicans don't want any control on who has access to firearms

Alabama ranks dead last in education in the US. They've ranked in the bottom 5 for as long as I can recall. If they truly valued children they'd make an effort to reform their educational system. On all other rankings of well-being, not just that of children, they rank in the bottom 5. Until they clean up their act, I'll take their claim they value the lives of children with a grain of salt.

RANKED: The strength of the public education system in every US state, from worst to best

 

[Jeff Robinson]

In 2018 the UK Supreme Court also found the prohibition of abortion in cases of rape, incest and foetal abnormality in Northern Ireland was incompatible with human rights law but didn't issue a legal declaration to that effect on technical grounds. To this day rape victims can be jailed (in theory for life) for seeking an abortion in NI.

 

[likesfish]

NI would probably fit in well with the southern States just make the catholics black up and your golden

 

[Idris2002]

NI would probably fit in well with the southern States just make the catholics black up and your golden

You fucking twat, fish!

 

[likesfish]

You know the orange order would be flying confederate flags given half a chance.

It's the only twattish regime they haven't embraced

 

[Idris2002]

So likesfish was wee Bernadette all along. Good to know.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I can't see this Handmaid's Tale shit being a big vote-winner for Trump in 2020, at least not in the swing states he'll need to win to get re-elected.

Was Skyping with an American friend, and mentioned this. She laughed and said "the South is full of churchgoers, the majority of them women. They'll queue up to vote for him on the back of this". She thinks it'll be a big vote winner in the Bible Belt, some of which states do tend to oscillate between red and blue corporatists.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yep - I don't think Trump has especially strong feelings either way on abortion, he used to go around saying he was pro-choice, but he knows that being very tough on abortion is the best way to woo the kind of Bible-thumping voters who would normally consider him the Antichrist.

"He's the Anti-Christ, but he's OUR Anti-Christ!".

 

[ViolentPanda]

Alabama is the state which until 2015 required all school text books that mention evolution to have a sticker on the front stating that evolution is a "controversial theory".

Religious dickhead scumbags being dickhead scumbags, as per.

You say "religious dickhead scumbags", I say "backwards-arsed country fucks". Then again, I say the same about people from Lincolnshire.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I can't find it now, but I read a brilliant piece deconstructing the decisions of the SC over the decades. It showed how not only could you predict the judgements just from who appointed the judge, but also the nature of the arguments used, which would flip-flop to suit the case: originalist when it suited, 'modern' when it suited. Their job is simply to produce a legal justification of the political position they were appointed to defend, and those justifications are wildly inconsistent with one another when lined up in a row. When you dig into their judgements, that becomes so apparent they should be embarrassed by it really.

Scalia was plain fucking blatant, most of the time.

 

[8ball]

From what I saw it seemed a dead cert that these bills would get quashed, but its both a symptom of and a cause for more silly polarisation.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You know the orange order would be flying confederate flags given half a chance.

It's the only twattish regime they haven't embraced

Ehrm...

 

[likesfish]

They missed out the Rhodesian/old south african flag for twatception

 

[Idris2002]

They missed out the Rhodesian/old south african flag for twatception

I did actually see the old saffa flag flying in East Belfast about 12 years ago.

 

[Ming]

but dont worry your unwanted child can always die in a school shooting strangely the pro-life republicans don't want any control on who has access to firearms

They're pro-life until you're born. Then you're on your own.

 

[seventh bullet]

'Twatception,' lol.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I don't have much respect for the Catholic church's position on abortion but at least they are reasonably consistent about the sanctity of life.

They're consistently against it, yes.

 

[Yossarian]

They're consistently against it, yes.

You're preaching to the choir if you want to slag off the Catholic church, but since Vatican II in the '60s, they have at least managed to oppose both the death penalty and abortion on similar grounds, which I think puts them marginally ahead of the Taliban types who run Alabama.

But the church's concern for the "sanctity of life" didn't extend to refusing to support murderous fascist regimes in Argentina and elsewhere, so they can fuck off as well, obviously.

 

[Chilli.s]

Should follow up on this with an "Every Sperm is Sacred" and outlaw male mastabation, with imprisonment for any and every case. Ejaculation only for procreation and no birth control.

Sarcasm of course.

 

[spring-peeper]

'Consensual rape' and 're-implantation': the times lawmakers 'misspoke' on abortion

Women should swallow tiny cameras for gynecological exams

In 2015 Idaho’s Republican-controlled state house debated a bill that would ban doctors from offering medication abortion services via telemedicine. Republican state representative Vito Barbieri asked a doctor testifying in opposition to the bill if women were able to swallow small cameras for remote gynecological exams. The doctor replied no, because when you swallow something it does not end up in your vagina. “Fascinating. That makes sense,” Barbieri replied.

Miscarriages should probably be investigated as murder

We haven’t finished with Chambliss. Under the Alabama law “attempted abortions” would be punishable by up to 10 years in jail. Chambliss was asked to define what an “attempted abortion” was, and didn’t have a clear answer. Nor could he say how doctors would be able to tell the difference between a miscarriage and an attempted abortion, simply stating that “the burden of proof would be on the prosecution”. Does that mean miscarriages would be investigated by the police? Because that’s what it sounds like.

Abortion should be painful

It’s not just male lawmakers waging war against women. Earlier this month Kim LaSata, a Michigan state legislator, said abortion should be painful, and women carrying unviable fetuses should be forced to deliver them. “Of course it should be hard, and the procedure should be painful, and you should allow God to take over, and you should deliver that baby, and you should handle the situation,” LaSata said.