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That carriage restoration is lovely - I've worked with the firm that did the marquetry on another project, they are the good guys!
 
editor said:
Oh, but imagine the sounds! And the sights!
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For many years , I used to quote the "Jazz" service - possibly the most intensive in the world from 1921 - 24 tph into Liverpool St from North East London and inners - steam tank engines , high capacity into London in the peaks and manual signalling - no grade seperation at Straford so movements had to be one with precision. Signalmen were excused the "call attention" on the block bells to facilitate the traffic. Real , cockney operation and planning of the highest order.
 
Apparently, I have on good authority that something steam-hauled went south through Whitehaven on the Cumbrian Coast line yesterday [Afternoon, IIRC, on Sat 23rd Sept 2023] Also had a diesel attached to the back.
 
Hollis said:
Apparently in Germany if a train is 50 minutes late everybody start dancin' or summat... :confused:

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Partyzug!

partyreisen-deutschland.de

Die besten Partyzüge in Deutschland | Partyzug-Angebote — Partyreisen Deutschland

Erlebt mit einem Tanzzug eine Partytour. Einsteigen, die Türen vom Partyzug schließen sich von selbst. Ein Pfiff durch den Zugbegleiter und ab geht die Party.
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They really go to town with these. I've done a few 'normal' specials there and they still have a party coach and music (usually crappy schlager stuff) piped into the compartments, which you can thankfully switch off. Did one trip where they had two party coaches: one doing naff schlager for the oldies, the other doing banging techno for the youngsters. We just had the windows open for the loco noise.

The drinking involved is Olympic level. Never any bother.
 
[62] said:
Partyzug!

partyreisen-deutschland.de

Die besten Partyzüge in Deutschland | Partyzug-Angebote — Partyreisen Deutschland

Erlebt mit einem Tanzzug eine Partytour. Einsteigen, die Türen vom Partyzug schließen sich von selbst. Ein Pfiff durch den Zugbegleiter und ab geht die Party.
partyreisen-deutschland.de partyreisen-deutschland.de

They really go to town with these. I've done a few 'normal' specials there and they still have a party coach and music (usually crappy schlager stuff) piped into the compartments, which you can thankfully switch off. Did one trip where they had two party coaches: one doing naff schlager for the oldies, the other doing banging techno for the youngsters. We just had the windows open for the loco noise.

The drinking involved is Olympic level. Never any bother.
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"Tanzwagen" (sic) - saw a magnificent steam hauled special one Sat am at Stutgart - old green stock , with a Mitropa dining car - the train crew / conductor in retro uniforms - quite amazing. The punters boarding had come prepared with those wooden trolleys stacked with bottled beer. (and no doubt local food specialities)
 
eek

although a lot less eek than the initial media reaction to 'train crash'

btw, did you know you can just copy paste the URL of a tweeter post

the bit that looks like this

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and you don't get all that code appearing on screen on urban

like so -

 
Puddy_Tat said:
eek

although a lot less eek than the initial media reaction to 'train crash'

btw, did you know you can just copy paste the URL of a tweeter post

the bit that looks like this

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and you don't get all that code appearing on screen on urban

like so -

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I thought I had corrected that and got the right URL?

One of my pals was chosen to be on the Footplate of the Flying Scotsman for its visit to Aberdeen - next week I think.

Don't know if it will be going ahead now.
 
This video got recommended to me on YouTube, it’s a little before my time about the 70s reconfiguration of London Bridge. A bit before my time but I remember the slam door trains well growing up in SE London in the 80s and 90s



Noticeably there’s a distinct lack of PPE being worn except for someone who looks like a local councillor. One bloke is wearing flares! Not a single woman shown to be involved in the project either as far as I could tell. When referring to drivers being trained on the new routes, the male pronoun is used. A lot has changed since then.

Quite a lot being done manually I imagine is very different to current projects.

Of course it’s all changed in the last decade or so, I can’t find a thread on the new station though.

Anyway I enjoyed watching it :)
 
Elpenor said:
This video got recommended to me on YouTube, it’s a little before my time about the 70s reconfiguration of London Bridge. A bit before my time but I remember the slam door trains well growing up in SE London in the 80s and 90s



Noticeably there’s a distinct lack of PPE being worn except for someone who looks like a local councillor. One bloke is wearing flares! Not a single woman shown to be involved in the project either as far as I could tell. When referring to drivers being trained on the new routes, the male pronoun is used. A lot has changed since then.

Quite a lot being done manually I imagine is very different to current projects.

Of course it’s all changed in the last decade or so, I can’t find a thread on the new station though.

Anyway I enjoyed watching it :)
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It was a huge and complex project , carried out by a solid generation of engineers , operaters and planners , something that BR was very proud of in terms of total route modernisation - and you can guarantee it was delivered pretty much on time and budget. The actual signal engineer in charge was around quite recently and he was always welcome several decades on in the box and and allowed to operate the most complex part of the layout very happily. None of these 72 hour+ blockages for commissioning the change from old to new - many of the interlockings were done on Saturday afternoons in 2 or 3 hour blocks. A great shame that the old slam door trains were not replaced at the time - but finances did not allow it until well into the 1990's - the DfT of the time made the comment "a refurbished train is as good as a new train" - i.e a coat of paint , new seat covers and new lighting and that was it.

Quite right about the working practices of the day - some quite worrying things going on during cable laying etc - but not abnormal for the time. (looking at recorded filming of other projects before and after indicate that was not abnormal) - massive tightening came up after Clapham in 1988 , though we were always driven hard on what was safe and what was not (in operations anyway)

Around the corner , female (am I allowed to use this term ?) , drivers were not far off being recruited , and the Southern had Station / Assistant Station Managers very soon after. The first at Burgess Hill in 1978 and a cadre of them in 1979 at Elmers End Richmond and Tolworth. (and elsewhere nationally) ........
 
:)

i have vague memories of it all happening (I'd have been travelling - with parents - for days out in central london / visits to relatives during the 70s, although don't think we often got off at london bridge.)

have a faint memory of the old footbridge being on fire - in that era, trains were restricted (and may not have stopped) rather than stopping everything.

didn't notice dad in the crowds of commuters, although he mostly travelled in / out of holborn viaduct then.

davesgcr said:
A great shame that the old slam door trains were not replaced at the time - but finances did not allow it until well into the 1990's - the DfT of the time made the comment "a refurbished train is as good as a new train" - i.e a coat of paint , new seat covers and new lighting and that was it.
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some of them weren't quite 20 years old by the mid 70's...

:p
 
Puddy_Tat said:
:)

i have vague memories of it all happening (I'd have been travelling - with parents - for days out in central london / visits to relatives during the 70s, although don't think we often got off at london bridge.)

have a faint memory of the old footbridge being on fire - in that era, trains were restricted (and may not have stopped) rather than stopping everything.

didn't notice dad in the crowds of commuters, although he mostly travelled in / out of holborn viaduct then.



some of them weren't quite 20 years old by the mid 70's...

:p
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4VEP units yes - but your bog standard EPB units dated from 1951 or so , and on recycled underframes from before the Second World War. Mere detail.

They did try out one of the new fangled 4PEP units on the Dartford lines - it failed so spectacularly and caused such chaos (cos nothing could couple up to it !) - that the hard bitten , uber-traditionalist operators banned it forthwith - not that there was any money to buy a huge new fleet of them for the Southern. Life was easier on the South Western , which is where they were succesfully broken in. :p:p
 
Puddy_Tat said:
:)

i have vague memories of it all happening (I'd have been travelling - with parents - for days out in central london / visits to relatives during the 70s, although don't think we often got off at london bridge.)

have a faint memory of the old footbridge being on fire - in that era, trains were restricted (and may not have stopped) rather than stopping everything.

didn't notice dad in the crowds of commuters, although he mostly travelled in / out of holborn viaduct then.



some of them weren't quite 20 years old by the mid 70's...

:p
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4VEP units yes - but your bog standard EPB units dated from 1951 or so , and on recycled underframes from before the Second World War. Mere detail.

They did try out one of the new fangled 4PEP units on the Dartford lines - it failed so spectacularly and caused such chaos (cos nothing could couple up to it !) - that the hard bitten , uber-traditionalist operators banned it forthwith - not that there was any money to buy a huge new fleet of them for the Southern. Life was easier on the South Western , which is where they were succesfully broken in. :p:p
 
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