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dodgers beware…


I didn’t know fines were as cheap as £20. If I had, I might not have bothered buying tickets on a couple of long distance trips that were expensive as fuck.

where penalty fares exist, they start at 20 quid, fairly sure if the proper fare is more than that, then penalty fare is higher- don't think you would get a discount for not having bought a ticket...

and not all lines do penalty fares, and even those that do can refer for prosecution if they think there has been intent to defraud.
 
Fare dodgers beware…


I didn’t know fines were as cheap as £20. If I had, I might not have bothered buying tickets on a couple of long distance trips that were expensive as fuck.
ime, from observation someone is more likely to get nicked on certain long distance / expensive routes than others, depending on when that someone is travelling.
[not that I've done such a thing, but I used to travel a lot by rail [pre-covid] and I have friends that work as guards / tarin managers or whatever they get called this week.]
 
I know someone that really likes Swiss Railways - he used to organise & travel on multiple trips over them.
I hope he has seen that !

That's drawing quite a lot of current, no wonder it's going rather slowly.
 
It would seems a bunch of Multiple Units connected together. It may possible to do that in this country with about half the Class 444 fleet if the power infrastructure to deal with it and it would just work if SWT coupled all their Class 159s together and may with one or two Class 158s to make up the length
 
Oh, to hop on this train!

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(Photo taken at now closed Robin's Hood Bay station)

I believe preservation of that coastal route (Scarborough - Whitby) was the original aim of the North Yorkshire Moors railway folk, but this was scuppered due to damage (collapse?) of one of the wooden trestle viaducts on the route. Shame, as it would have been beautiful.
 
It would seems a bunch of Multiple Units connected together. It may possible to do that in this country with about half the Class 444 fleet if the power infrastructure to deal with it and it would just work if SWT coupled all their Class 159s together and may with one or two Class 158s to make up the length
Certainly couldn't join them all together now. I was bored waiting on a platform in Victoria and stuck my head in the drivers open window. Sign describing which version of software each unit could be connected to and actually work I did wonder how much pain finding that out was caused.
 
Certainly couldn't join them all together now. I was bored waiting on a platform in Victoria and stuck my head in the drivers open window. Sign describing which version of software each unit could be connected to and actually work I did wonder how much pain finding that out was caused.
Jeez, you'd think they make the software backwardly compatible :(
 
Jeez, you'd think they make the software backwardly compatible :(
I think it's more about features than protocols. But yes, you'd think there would be some kind of compatibility matrix built into the software so trains with different versions could still interoperate with a minimal set of functions.

Interesting thread on railuk discussing the kind of problems that arise: train onboard software
 
Didn’t know double deckers had been in operation here. I wonder why they weren’t widely adopted, on the busiest commuter lines at least…
Very cramped in the upstairs seats, and windows couldn’t open at the top for ventilation. Plus the longer time for passengers to get on or off at stations negated any gain from capacity.

Two driving cars remain, both in a pretty sad state, one in Kent at Sellinge and one at the northants Ironstone railway - the latter has been donated to the group who own the other car following the death of the owner, so they should be reunited at some point.

The Facebook group for the owners is here:

 
Layout and space are just a bit similar to this {look at the last few images} ...

 
Very cramped in the upstairs seats, and windows couldn’t open at the top for ventilation. Plus the longer time for passengers to get on or off at stations negated any gain from capacity.

Two driving cars remain, both in a pretty sad state, one in Kent at Sellinge and one at the northants Ironstone railway - the latter has been donated to the group who own the other car following the death of the owner, so they should be reunited at some point.

The Facebook group for the owners is here:

There's also this explanation:
Whilst commonly used in continental Europe and North America, the restrictive railway loading gauge in the United Kingdom prohibits normal double-decker trains with two fully separated decks.
A loading gauge is a diagram or physical structure that defines the maximum height and width dimensions in railway vehicles and their loads. Their purpose is to ensure that rail vehicles can pass safely through tunnels and under bridges, and keep clear of platforms, trackside buildings and structures.[1] Classification systems vary between different countries, and gauges may vary across a network, even if the track gauge is uniform.
They were thus very cramped
Comparison:
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There's also this explanation:

They were thus very cramped

They were slightly too big for the standard U.K. loading gauge, so were only cleared for use on the Dartford route (which was big enough) and a few other lines to allow them to get to works for maintenance.
 
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