mi5 can authorise informants to kill

[Pickman's model]

the investigatory powers tribunal ruled in the 3/2 split decision that the security service can authorise informants to torture and kill if it's in the public interest

British spies DO have a 'Licence to KILL', tribunal rules after challenge from human rights groups | Daily Mail Online

 

[Athos]

Though that 'authorisation' doesn't confer immunity from prosecution. It's a strange state of affairs.

 

[keybored]

Previously they were only allowed to torture and kill themselves (and even then, only if they packed their own body neatly into a sports holdall afterwards).

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Is the really news?

 

[Pickman's model]

Is the really news?

it's in the mail so it must be something

 

[8ball]

if it's in the public interest

Exactly.
It’s killing.

But it’s not badkilling.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Exactly.
It’s killing.

But it’s not badkilling.

Torture, but not the bad kind of torture.

 

[8ball]

Torture, but not the bad kind of torture.

Saving people with enhanced interrogation techniques.

 

[planetgeli]

Torture, but not the bad kind of torture.

Support for torture in the U.K. runs at about 35-50%, depending how the question is asked. Many of those supporting it probably were against Corbyn for being an extremist.

 

[Teaboy]

Wouldn't the person they are torturing be a member of the public? Doesn't sound like it's in their best interests to me.

 

[Shechemite]

Support for torture in the U.K. runs at about 35-50%, depending how the question is asked. Many of those supporting it probably were against Corbyn for being an extremist.

Sheeple

 

[Mr.Bishie]

it's in the mail so it must be something

Dunno what’s worse, government assassins or posting fail links

 

[Shechemite]

Dunno what’s worse, government assassins or posting fail links

Hang them both

 

[Marty1]

Torture, but not the bad kind of torture.

Don’t think the term ‘torture’ is used anymore, ‘extraordinary rendition’ sounds much more civilised despite the end result being equal.

 

[keybored]

Don’t think the term ‘torture’ is used anymore, ‘extraordinary rendition’ sounds much more civilised despite the end result being equal.

"Extraordinary rendition" is the term for government-sanctioned kidnapping and spiriting away (though torture will likely be involved somewhere along the way).

I think the fluffy term for torture is something like this:

enhanced interrogation techniques.

 

[Marty1]

"Extraordinary rendition" is the term for government-sanctioned kidnapping and spiriting away (though torture will likely be involved somewhere along the way).

I think the fluffy term for torture is something like this:

Yeah, sounds almost nice and fluffy compared to torture.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Most of their grasses are up to their necks in murky shit in the first place. The spies themselves are mostly career civil servants with sweat stains under the arms of their grey tinged m&s 3 for £20 shirts & very unlikely to give you a Timothy Dalton head butt

 

[DaveCinzano]

Though that 'authorisation' doesn't confer immunity from prosecution. It's a strange state of affairs.

The gist I get from it is that the Security Service officers who might be running twitchy-fingered sources are themselves indemnified.

 

[Athos]

The gist I get from it is that the Security Service officers who might be running twitchy-fingered sources are themselves indemnified.

Lord Justice Singh said the opposite - that MI5 officers won't get criminal immunity in these circumstances.

 

[not-bono-ever]

The gist I get from it is that the Security Service officers who might be running twitchy-fingered sources are themselves indemnified.

They are present at rendition centres when the locals or septics do the wet work often. That bloke who killed the fella in woolwich was interrogated in east Africa with spooks on site at the time

 

[dylanredefined]

Spooks are a law unto themselves I assume. At best we can hope they have someone saying "Your plan to blow up Great Ormonds street to make ISIS look bad is ambitious ,but unnecessary. You complete fucking psychopath"
They are going to do bad things to hopefully the right bad people and no one will ever know hopefully with some over sight.

 

[likesfish]

the idea you can have a covert intelligence service that is completely above board and never does anything dubious is ridiculous.
But letting them completely off the leash just means you replaced one threat with your own goverment backed terrorists

 

[kebabking]

Only if you recruit your people from second order Universities and (shudder) comprehensive schools....

 

[Chilli.s]

Is this the thing that lets off NI spooks?

 

[A380]

Only if you recruit your people from second order Universities and (shudder) comprehensive schools....

Good grief- I heard they nearly took someone from Durham once.

 

[dylanredefined]

Only if you recruit your people from second order Universities and (shudder) comprehensive schools....

Well those from the right universities never betrayed this country did they?

 

[kebabking]

Well those from the right universities never betrayed this country did they?

Only a small proportion old boy, but people who went to comprehensive schools might do anything....

 

[moochedit]

Good grief- I heard they nearly took someone from Durham once.

 

[dylanredefined]

Not allowed to make jokes about stasi agents from Hull. Brother in law went there.

 

[kebabking]

Not allowed to make jokes about stasi agents from Hull. Brother in law went there.

And you let him marry your sister? Shit the fucking bed...