Menshn - Louise Mensch launches a 'rival to twitter'
- Thread starter mattie
- Start date
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Street Legal LOL
Smangus
comatose at a desk
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Canada gave us Benton Fraser and you will take that back
we don't want to be cruel
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
cunts
Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Garth Hudson and Robbie Robertson. Four of the best.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
So you don't want the mix tape then?
(I will admit the Randian stuffs a bit dodgy).
elbows
Well-Known Member
Did I just read that Mensch has been sacked by Murdoch from that Heat Street thing she does after losing tens of millions of pounds in a year?
Where did you read it? I cant find anything about it online.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
This perhaps?
Zelo Street: Louise Mensch No Longer On Heat Street
Zelo Street: Louise Mensch No Longer On Heat Street
elbows
Well-Known Member
Cheers. I see someone in the comments says she has denied it.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
russia only has ballet, classical music and faberge
fucks sake what a dense bitch.
She even forgot to mention, vodka, caviar, Kalashnikovs and suicidal novelists.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Will she Menschn her employment record when applying for a new job?
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
She'll likely leave off the whole parliament thing. She'd soon get sick of people asking her what an MP is 
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
russia only has ballet, classical music and faberge
.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
russia only has ballet, classical music and faberge
And the KGB, or whatever they're calling it these days. Putin's former employers.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
FSB
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Best not to mess with the Full Scottish Breakfast.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
JimW
支那暗杀团
I see from the linked tweet she confused FTD with STD
Saw this letter linked elsewhere on accusations of Trump having some mental illness: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/...trist-demurs-on-trumps-mental-state.html?_r=0
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
To pal up with one nonce is a mistake, but with two..?
Lurdan
old wave
Entertaining profile in the Sunday Times - paywalled
The manic queen of conspiracy
Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by Obama has caused a firestorm and at its heart sits hyperactive ex-Tory MP Louise Mensch. She sees a spider’s web of plotting and tells Josh Glancy what she thinks is really going on
The manic queen of conspiracy
Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by Obama has caused a firestorm and at its heart sits hyperactive ex-Tory MP Louise Mensch. She sees a spider’s web of plotting and tells Josh Glancy what she thinks is really going on
March 12 2017, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
(...) in recent months Mensch has found herself deeply involved in the biggest and potentially most dangerous news story on the planet: Donald Trump and Russia.
(...)
Mensch is seeing connections everywhere. “I see everything now in this giant web,” she says. “It’s because I’ve got raging ADHD [attention deficit hyperactivity disorder] and I really care.”
She compares herself to the high-functioning autistic character played by Ben Affleck in The Accountant, whose phenomenal powers of concentration and perception place him at the centre of a global crime ring. “I’m like the accountant . . . without the ability to do any actual maths and shoot guns. I sort of turned into this temporary superpower where I suddenly see things really clearly.”
She is certainly talking and thinking at warp speed. But just how clearly she is seeing things has become a point of fevered speculation in the American media, which can’t decide if she’s good Carrie Mathison, the one whose whippet-like mind sees the story that no one else can, or bad Carrie, who starts making connections that simply aren’t there.
A story on The Daily Beast’s website last week quoted an American intelligence analyst as describing Mensch as “batshit crazy” and a “fruit loop”. Ever the brawler, Mensch hit back, saying she was “unfazed by little people snapping at my heels”.
Some of her theories do seem a little far-fetched: for example, that the “catfishing” of sexting-obsessed former congressman Anthony Weiner was a Russian entrapment operation to ultimately undermine the Hillary Clinton campaign (the unfortunate Weiner was married to Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin). But equally, her original scoop on the FBI and Trump Tower has not been knocked down.
Mensch’s involvement in the Trump story began in November, the day before the American election, when she published an exclusive story on Heat Street saying that “two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘US persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”
The focus of the warrant, which according to the story was turned down initially but then granted, with a narrower scope, by a judge later, was a server in Trump Tower, “possibly linked to the Trump campaign”, and its alleged links to two large Russian banks, SVB and Alfa Bank.
In the maelstrom of the election result, the story went mostly unnoticed. Even Mensch “kind of forgot about it” and “thought no more about it” for a few weeks. But then other news organisations, mainstream ones including the BBC and The Guardian, appeared to corroborate Mensch’s article. Suddenly it had critical mass.
Even then its impact might have been limited — just one angle amid a kaleidoscope of reporting on Trump and Russia. But at the beginning of the month Breitbart, the Trump-supporting website, alleged that the Obama administration “sought, and eventually obtained, authorisation to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign” and “continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found”. The report contained a link to Mensch’s Heat Street article.
The story exploded last Saturday morning when Trump used his Twitter account to accuse Obama of phone-tapping him. Following up on Trump’s claim — for which little evidence has been provided — the White House cited in support of it articles “from BBC, Heat Street, New York Times, Fox News, among others”.
Why Trump chose to launch his tirade has been a source of much head-scratching. Mensch is eager to point out that she “didn’t say there was a wiretap in Trump Tower”. Her report simply revealed FBI applications for warrants to examine unusual activity from within Trump Tower, without specifying if there was a phone-tap. It doesn’t support Trump’s claims, which have also been rejected by the FBI.
“In vain will you do a search of my article and find the word ‘wiretapping’,” she says. She believes that Trump and “all his many hordes of demons” wrongly put her story forward as evidence for the president’s claims because they were desperate for some sort of verification.
Mensch thinks that Trump’s phone-tapping accusations are the wild defence of a cornered animal. She believes he is trying to create a narrative of the Obama administration and the much-maligned “deep state” plotting against him because he knows that the real scandal is close to being uncovered. Or, as she elegantly puts it: “He’s now f*****, isn’t he? You can put that in stars in The Sunday Times.”
So does she think there was a phone-tap or not? “I literally don’t know — no idea.” But she’s more and more convinced her own story is correct. “Of course it could not be true,” she points out. “If it’s bollocks, then fine, it’s bollocks. But the amount of give-a-shit is enormous, and therefore I’m coming round to the belief that it is true.”
She may have a point. On Thursday night CNN reported that the FBI was continuing to investigate the possible and “unusual” connection between a server in Trump Tower and Russian banks.
As the spotlight turned towards her again Mensch was primed and ready to go. She’d spent the past couple of months closely following the drip-drip of revelations about Trump and Russia. The story has become a “complete driving passion” that takes up all of her free time. “I think it’s a function of ADHD that you have hyper-focus,” she says. “I feel that I can suddenly see patterns and synthesise old bits of information that normally you would forget about and then I just start thinking . . .”
Her mission is to convince as many people as possible of what she believes has become a “blindingly obvious” truth: “That Donald Trump is not just massively corrupt, but that he has collaborated with the Russians in order to win the election.” If that proves true, “that’s cheating, in the sense he’ll be impeached for it and should go to jail for it, rightly, really, and so should everybody in his campaign that colluded, which is more or less everybody in his campaign.” Not for her the theory of Trump and co simply being a bit cosy with Russia and bad at hiding it. This is a full-blown Kremlin conspiracy.
The obvious question is why Mensch’s intelligence sources chose her, the former MP for Corby, and not a trained investigative reporter to pass this information to. She says the intelligence community trusts her because of her reporting on The Guardian and the Edward Snowden affair in 2013 when she was “extremely furious” that the newspaper had “shipped off all our agents’ names in a fricking FedEx file”.
The intelligence community, she says, “knows I am on their side”. It was the Snowden affair, which she describes as “year zero” in this entire brouhaha, that piqued her interest in Russia. Of course Mensch won’t reveal her sources. But it’s been widely observed in America that this particular story has been reported primarily by British journalists.
She believes that Vladimir Putin has committed a “giant act of war” against America and that British intelligence services are “in a Nato situation”, where it is their patriotic duty to expose nefarious Russian activity. Her links with intelligence officials appear to go through an intermediary. “It’s easier as a journalist to go through people who have links to people,” she says.
I wonder what her and Peter’s six children (three each from previous marriages) make of her sudden transformation into a cold warrior and hunter of reds under the bed.
“His children are grown,” she says. “They don’t care. They’re doing their own thing. My children are resilient. These days when anything goes wrong in our house, one of my kids will say: ‘Is it the Russians?’ It’s a standing joke. ‘Pizza went cold. Is it the Russians?’”
(...)
But today is not a day for wistful contemplation; Mensch simply can’t stay off the Russia subject for more than a minute. “I miss Britain terribly and I really want to meet Chris Steele [the former British spy behind the explosive “golden shower” Trump dossier],” she says. “‘I heart you so much and I just really want to meet you in the worst way.’ I am such a fangirl.”
She adds: “Everything he said is right. Everything he said is going to be borne out, from the beginning to the end.”
Mensch still follows British politics carefully. She says she was “flat wrong” to think Theresa May wouldn’t be a good prime minister. “She’s an absolutely brilliant prime minister. Although she should get rid of Phil Hammond.”
One upside of l’affaire Trump is that Mensch — a lifelong Tory — and her husband, whom she describes as a “f****** commie”, are in rare agreement over politics. “He’s stopped saying, ‘Can you please stop saying it’s the Russians.’ The news cycle catches up to me eventually.”
(...)
(...) in recent months Mensch has found herself deeply involved in the biggest and potentially most dangerous news story on the planet: Donald Trump and Russia.
(...)
Mensch is seeing connections everywhere. “I see everything now in this giant web,” she says. “It’s because I’ve got raging ADHD [attention deficit hyperactivity disorder] and I really care.”
She compares herself to the high-functioning autistic character played by Ben Affleck in The Accountant, whose phenomenal powers of concentration and perception place him at the centre of a global crime ring. “I’m like the accountant . . . without the ability to do any actual maths and shoot guns. I sort of turned into this temporary superpower where I suddenly see things really clearly.”
She is certainly talking and thinking at warp speed. But just how clearly she is seeing things has become a point of fevered speculation in the American media, which can’t decide if she’s good Carrie Mathison, the one whose whippet-like mind sees the story that no one else can, or bad Carrie, who starts making connections that simply aren’t there.
A story on The Daily Beast’s website last week quoted an American intelligence analyst as describing Mensch as “batshit crazy” and a “fruit loop”. Ever the brawler, Mensch hit back, saying she was “unfazed by little people snapping at my heels”.
Some of her theories do seem a little far-fetched: for example, that the “catfishing” of sexting-obsessed former congressman Anthony Weiner was a Russian entrapment operation to ultimately undermine the Hillary Clinton campaign (the unfortunate Weiner was married to Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin). But equally, her original scoop on the FBI and Trump Tower has not been knocked down.
Mensch’s involvement in the Trump story began in November, the day before the American election, when she published an exclusive story on Heat Street saying that “two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘US persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”
The focus of the warrant, which according to the story was turned down initially but then granted, with a narrower scope, by a judge later, was a server in Trump Tower, “possibly linked to the Trump campaign”, and its alleged links to two large Russian banks, SVB and Alfa Bank.
In the maelstrom of the election result, the story went mostly unnoticed. Even Mensch “kind of forgot about it” and “thought no more about it” for a few weeks. But then other news organisations, mainstream ones including the BBC and The Guardian, appeared to corroborate Mensch’s article. Suddenly it had critical mass.
Even then its impact might have been limited — just one angle amid a kaleidoscope of reporting on Trump and Russia. But at the beginning of the month Breitbart, the Trump-supporting website, alleged that the Obama administration “sought, and eventually obtained, authorisation to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign” and “continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found”. The report contained a link to Mensch’s Heat Street article.
The story exploded last Saturday morning when Trump used his Twitter account to accuse Obama of phone-tapping him. Following up on Trump’s claim — for which little evidence has been provided — the White House cited in support of it articles “from BBC, Heat Street, New York Times, Fox News, among others”.
Why Trump chose to launch his tirade has been a source of much head-scratching. Mensch is eager to point out that she “didn’t say there was a wiretap in Trump Tower”. Her report simply revealed FBI applications for warrants to examine unusual activity from within Trump Tower, without specifying if there was a phone-tap. It doesn’t support Trump’s claims, which have also been rejected by the FBI.
“In vain will you do a search of my article and find the word ‘wiretapping’,” she says. She believes that Trump and “all his many hordes of demons” wrongly put her story forward as evidence for the president’s claims because they were desperate for some sort of verification.
Mensch thinks that Trump’s phone-tapping accusations are the wild defence of a cornered animal. She believes he is trying to create a narrative of the Obama administration and the much-maligned “deep state” plotting against him because he knows that the real scandal is close to being uncovered. Or, as she elegantly puts it: “He’s now f*****, isn’t he? You can put that in stars in The Sunday Times.”
So does she think there was a phone-tap or not? “I literally don’t know — no idea.” But she’s more and more convinced her own story is correct. “Of course it could not be true,” she points out. “If it’s bollocks, then fine, it’s bollocks. But the amount of give-a-shit is enormous, and therefore I’m coming round to the belief that it is true.”
She may have a point. On Thursday night CNN reported that the FBI was continuing to investigate the possible and “unusual” connection between a server in Trump Tower and Russian banks.
As the spotlight turned towards her again Mensch was primed and ready to go. She’d spent the past couple of months closely following the drip-drip of revelations about Trump and Russia. The story has become a “complete driving passion” that takes up all of her free time. “I think it’s a function of ADHD that you have hyper-focus,” she says. “I feel that I can suddenly see patterns and synthesise old bits of information that normally you would forget about and then I just start thinking . . .”
Her mission is to convince as many people as possible of what she believes has become a “blindingly obvious” truth: “That Donald Trump is not just massively corrupt, but that he has collaborated with the Russians in order to win the election.” If that proves true, “that’s cheating, in the sense he’ll be impeached for it and should go to jail for it, rightly, really, and so should everybody in his campaign that colluded, which is more or less everybody in his campaign.” Not for her the theory of Trump and co simply being a bit cosy with Russia and bad at hiding it. This is a full-blown Kremlin conspiracy.
The obvious question is why Mensch’s intelligence sources chose her, the former MP for Corby, and not a trained investigative reporter to pass this information to. She says the intelligence community trusts her because of her reporting on The Guardian and the Edward Snowden affair in 2013 when she was “extremely furious” that the newspaper had “shipped off all our agents’ names in a fricking FedEx file”.
The intelligence community, she says, “knows I am on their side”. It was the Snowden affair, which she describes as “year zero” in this entire brouhaha, that piqued her interest in Russia. Of course Mensch won’t reveal her sources. But it’s been widely observed in America that this particular story has been reported primarily by British journalists.
She believes that Vladimir Putin has committed a “giant act of war” against America and that British intelligence services are “in a Nato situation”, where it is their patriotic duty to expose nefarious Russian activity. Her links with intelligence officials appear to go through an intermediary. “It’s easier as a journalist to go through people who have links to people,” she says.
I wonder what her and Peter’s six children (three each from previous marriages) make of her sudden transformation into a cold warrior and hunter of reds under the bed.
“His children are grown,” she says. “They don’t care. They’re doing their own thing. My children are resilient. These days when anything goes wrong in our house, one of my kids will say: ‘Is it the Russians?’ It’s a standing joke. ‘Pizza went cold. Is it the Russians?’”
(...)
But today is not a day for wistful contemplation; Mensch simply can’t stay off the Russia subject for more than a minute. “I miss Britain terribly and I really want to meet Chris Steele [the former British spy behind the explosive “golden shower” Trump dossier],” she says. “‘I heart you so much and I just really want to meet you in the worst way.’ I am such a fangirl.”
She adds: “Everything he said is right. Everything he said is going to be borne out, from the beginning to the end.”
Mensch still follows British politics carefully. She says she was “flat wrong” to think Theresa May wouldn’t be a good prime minister. “She’s an absolutely brilliant prime minister. Although she should get rid of Phil Hammond.”
One upside of l’affaire Trump is that Mensch — a lifelong Tory — and her husband, whom she describes as a “f****** commie”, are in rare agreement over politics. “He’s stopped saying, ‘Can you please stop saying it’s the Russians.’ The news cycle catches up to me eventually.”
(...)
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Similar threads
