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Yesterday in Lichfield " the better the ingrediant, the better the dish will be" 🤔
That is provided you can cook reasonably well.
 
I thought the food at Ikoyi looked delicious. I'm totally down with anyone who wants to take me there for £300.

Finalists all seem nice if a little boring.
 
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Yesterday in Lichfield " the better the ingrediant, the better the dish will be" 🤔
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This is what they get paid the big bucks for. ;)

This week highlighted the difference between one and two Michelin stars. Upstairs (tasting menu a snip at £100) has fairly 'normal' food cooked conventionally – noting ridiculously complicated, nothing surprising about the combinations – while Ikoyi (sp!) serves things you've never heard of and puts together stuff you wouldn't think of - Jollof rice with lobster custard anyone?

IIRC Michel Roux purposely gave up one of his two stars because it wasn't the kind of cooking he wanted to do any more. It's not necessarily better, but it is more complex. You won't get two stars just by cooking no-frills classic French cuisine, for example, but you might get one.
 
St pancreas hotel. And?
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Spoiler....I am not in the habit of posting pictures of a buffet breakfast. I stayed in an iconic London hotel last night ( someone else paid). I was expecting good things of the breakfast, it was a huge let down. The cooked parts were on a buffet. Bacon was cheap fatty and streaky. Eggs were miserable scrambled only, no fried, no boiled, no omelettes....
Being super organised, I put some bread in the toaster and went to get hot stuff...bacon, mushrooms, tomatoes, beans....the sausages had run out! I asked for more, twice, waiting a few minutes. I was asked to sit down. My breakfast was now cold, as was my toast. Did they bring me sausages when they brought them out, did they even tell me they were ready; not on your life, did they hell. Hot main plates ran out, small side plates ran out. Altogether a very bad hot breakfast experience. The only redeeming feature was tea made with loose leaf tea. Even then, we were not given a choice. Nil points, nil pictures.
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I love the Aussie girl. So humble. Even though she's amazing. And I think no formal training. Hope she wins.
 
I Love this show, such talent from all 4 finalists.

We’re catching up on last nights episode, they’ve just started on their 2nd task, nothing between them from Chef’s table.

I like them all and wish them all well.
 
I like the unusual ingredients and use of all the animals. And I like the idea of challenging people to think as they eat and surprising them. But he's kidding himself if he thinks he's making a stand for a better world by creating this place. This kind of restaurant is incredibly energy-intensive. There is nothing sustainable about it. It's a very expensive experience for a tiny group of very very rich people, that's all.
 
Just catching up on last night show. A novelty place for hipsters.
Whatever happens now, I'm sure this will boost the careers of the 3 finalists.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
I like the unusual ingredients and use of all the animals. And I like the idea of challenging people to think as they eat and surprising them. But he's kidding himself if he thinks he's making a stand for a better world by creating this place. This kind of restaurant is incredibly energy-intensive. There is nothing sustainable about it. It's a very expensive experience for a tiny group of very very rich people, that's all.
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It's not cheap but it's not insane - around 500-600 quid for 30-50 'courses' + wine I think? Whole process takes 5-8 hours or something. It's not for a tiny group - I could see people doing that as a bucket list/honeymoon type thing.
 
Sweet FA said:
It's not cheap but it's not insane - around 500-600 quid for 30-50 'courses' + wine I think? Whole process takes 5-8 hours or something. It's not for a tiny group - I could see people doing that as a bucket list/honeymoon type thing.
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I linked to the website on a previous page. I didn't know it was coming up. All I did was google 'world's most expensive restaurant'. It came up that the 50-course meal was £2,000. Looking it up again, that's for the 'Sommelier Table', so with wine. Without wine, as you say, it's more like £600. But add a couple of hundred onto that for the wine, I would think. You're not going to want to drink tap water all evening. For two people, it's still going to be the thick end of £2,000. Denmark doesn't have a tipping culture, so you wouldn't be expected to tip, so maybe closer to £1,500. ;)
 
Just caught up too. We both love the place :cool:

Mrs Numbers said we should go to Copenhagen next.

It wasn’t clear but do you have to do the entire 50 ‘impressions’ - surely you can go and have just some.
 
Numbers said:
Just caught up too. We both love the place :cool:

Mrs Numbers said we should go to Copenhagen next.

It wasn’t clear but do you have to do the entire 50 ‘impressions’ - surely you can go and have just some.
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Nope, it's the whole hog or nothing. You can do the basic 50, which is £600 per head excluding drinks, or the one with curated wines, which is £2,000 per head. That's it.

Reservations are done in three-month blocks. Currently you can't reserve a place but there is a waiting list.

https://www.exploretock.com/alchemist
 
You really know you're at a top-end restaurant when they don't even have a menu. Ikoyi also doesn't have a menu. You will find out what you're eating when you get there, and you don't have a choice!

Alchemist doesn't have a menu but it does have a manifesto that you can download.

Where posh restaurants meet communist era restaurants.
 
Numbers said:
That’s a shame. I’d go if I could select a dozen or so but a lot of it I wouldn’t eat.
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Yeah you've got to not be a fussy eater to eat there. I'd happily devour all of it, even the sheep brains. I think this place is a step too far in pretension even for me, though.

Greg Wallace was funny in his comments. You could tell that he wasn't really convinced. This is supposed to be unpleasant at first, yes? This is supposed to make you feel uncomfortable?

Tbh I'm not convinced by the 'political' side of that - feeding you chicken with a bunch of caged chickens above you, making you eat plastic, etc. The enjoyment of food is a holistic experience - they have that right - but because of that, the enjoyment of even the tastiest food can be spoiled. I suspect a lot of people will pretend they haven't had their enjoyment spoiled by the theatrics, but really, like Greg, they'd rather not have that other stuff thanks. Not when they're paying six hundred quid a head.
 
In the past when they've been to Danish restaurants with their delicate dishes and foraged ingredients, they've looked great. This restaurant did not appeal to me at all.
-absolute guff about caring about the environment when you're a restaurant that only serves food to people who have a spare £2000
-student level art
-offal
-cheese
I mean it must taste nice if it's the 5th best restaurant in the world.
 
I don’t understand why The Alchemist is lecturing people about battery chicken when the only people who can afford to eat there won’t be buying cheap chicken. It’s all so performative

I enjoyed the final. They were all amazing and I’m sure have brilliant futures ahead of them. So much talent!
I won’t say who won but it was deserved 😊
 
Yeah great final. I'd have happily eaten all their food, and they're all really nice people as well. I normally fast forward the family stuff, but Tom's family were really touching. Nice moment at the end.
 
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