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planetgeli

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Anyone watch this on C4 last night? I gave up halfway through, will watch the rest later, but it was remarkable for the footage of the madness he had to go through but particularly for the Juve fans hatred of Napoli, where the chants (and the banners) went way beyond anything we experience in our grounds. Worth watching for that bit alone.

Anyone see it? Badgers ?
 
yeah, i saw it at the cinema last year, I thought it was an incredible film. A compelling story that doesn't gloss over Maradona's many weaknesses, but also shows how he was exploited, let down and ruined by the industry. I don't have much of an interest in football, but was engrossed throughout.

I thought the soundtrack was brilliant too - Antonio Pinto.
 
Definitely going to try and catch up with this. It's by the same bloke who did Amy, which was brilliant, and the one about Ayrton Senna, which is supposed to be excellent although I haven't seen it.
 
The mafia angle needs its own documentary. About Napoli's choke when they were about to retain the title.

One of the main revenue streams for the Camorra was the totonero, black-market betting. At the start of the 1987-88 season, every single Neapolitan, it seemed, put money on their team to win a second championship. While there has never been a proven link, success for Napoli would have been highly disadvantageous for the crime families of the city. “If they had won that season, the Camorra would have had to pay out about 200bn lire in bets,” Simone Di Meo, an investigative journalist who specialises in the Camorra, told me. “They would have gone bankrupt.”
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www.theguardian.com

One that got away for Maradona and Napoli remains wrapped in suspicion | Tim Lewis

Late-season collapse was accompanied by strange events off the field as Diego Maradona and Napoli sought a second successive Italian title in 1987-88
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
stavros said:
It was fascinating. I wasn't aware that he came from quite such a deprived background, nor the venom that the northern fans had for Napoli.

Doing keepy-uppies with your back heel! :eek:
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Even a few years ago I remember a banner at a football match that said "NAPOLI - THE SEWER OF ITALY"

When I say remember, I mean remember seeing it on a website.

The graffiti in Naples cemetery said YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE MISSING when Maradona came to play from them. Does that make it into the film?
 
just watching now, the mafia money at napoli comes up in the first 10 minutes, not sure how much a of deal will be made of it, but its acknowledged at least
 
“Maradona has the ball, two mark him, he touches the ball. The genius of world football dashes to the right and leaves the third and is going to pass to Burruchaga. It’s still Maradona! Genius! Genius! Genius! Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. Gooooooooooal! Gooooooooooal! I want to cry! Dear God! Long live football! Gooooooooooal! Diegoal! Maradona! It’s enough to make you cry, forgive me. Maradona, in an unforgettable run, in the play of all time.

“Cosmic kite! What planet are you from? Leaving in your wake so many Englishmen, so that the whole country is a clenched fist shouting for Argentina? Argentina 2, England 0. Diegoal, Diegoal, Diego Armando Maradona. Thank you, God, for football, for Maradona, for these tears, for this, Argentina 2, England 0.”

:D love it
 
I thought that was excellent. Really felt for his wife and the woman he had a son with. Couldn’t believe the level of abuse Naples fans get. What a player he was. Minor gripe but wish they would make the subtitles bigger on these things.
 
planetgeli said:
Anyone watch this on C4 last night? I gave up halfway through, will watch the rest later, but it was remarkable for the footage of the madness he had to go through but particularly for the Juve fans hatred of Napoli, where the chants (and the banners) went way beyond anything we experience in our grounds. Worth watching for that bit alone.

Anyone see it? Badgers ?
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Millwall sang 'You should have all died at Hillsborough' when I stood in their away stand. Think that's bad enough.
 
Favelado said:
The graffiti in Naples cemetery said YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE MISSING when Maradona came to play from them. Does that make it into the film?
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That was in it too. I stopped watching as things started to fall apart for him. Might go back, but its depressing and ultimately drugs, mafia, bullshit, media, madness, i can guess the details. I know the state of him today, so.

Excellent raw footage of the 80s though, really brought back that era, in an unglossed fashion.
 
Yep, saw it on telly the other night too, fascinating, the difference between 'Diego' and 'Maradona' in terms of his private/public persona was interesting too. Crazy towards the end, coke and partying from Sunday night to Weds, then 'clean, clean' clean' from Weds to the next Sun, mad and sad.
 
purenarcotic said:
I thought that was excellent. Really felt for his wife and the woman he had a son with. Couldn’t believe the level of abuse Naples fans get. What a player he was. Minor gripe but wish they would make the subtitles bigger on these things.
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Yeah that's bad of course. As are Munich air disaster songs. I still don't think they're on a par with 40000 fans all singing, with banners, that you are dirty, need a wash, your poverty is your own fault and should kill you, but that specifically you should die of cholera or in an earthquake.
 
planetgeli said:
Yeah that's bad of course. As are Munich air disaster songs. I still don't think they're on a par with 40000 fans all singing, with banners, that you are dirty, need a wash, your poverty is your own fault and should kill you, but that specifically you should die of cholera or in an earthquake.
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Yes they are as bad. People in that crowd had friends and family who'd died at Hillsborough. Anyway - I just think in general things can be as bad in the UK. Aberfan chants - Bradford Barbecue chants - The Sun was right chants. Chants about real deaths .
 
Favelado said:
Yes they are as bad. People in that crowd had friends and family who'd died at Hillsborough. Anyway - I just think in general things can be as bad in the UK. Aberfan chants - Bradford Barbecue chants - The Sun was right chants. Chants about real deaths .
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The chants about cholera are about real deaths too. Check your history. These people have long memories and are unforgiving.

But yeah, watch it. It's a good film.
 
He is one of the reasons I started the thread about watching old matches in full. The only 90 minutes of peak Maradona I've seen are the England 86 match, when the Beeb repeated it, I think before the 2018 WC. Similarly, I've never seen Platini, Cruyff or Pelé, and only the 1966 final of a young Beckenbauer.
 
stavros said:
He is one of the reasons I started the thread about watching old matches in full. The only 90 minutes of peak Maradona I've seen are the England 86 match, when the Beeb repeated it, I think before the 2018 WC. Similarly, I've never seen Platini, Cruyff or Pelé, and only the 1966 final of a young Beckenbauer.
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I remember Saint and Greavsie started to talk about him on their show, and you could see they they were just blown away by him. They adopted a completely different tone of voice when the subject of Maradona came up.
 
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