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Manchester United 18/19: finishing second best

On a more serious note. How deep does the rot go in Utd? Yes they've had some successes since Ferguson departed, but for a club of their financial clout they've done really very poorly when it comes to buying top talent and developing from within too - the odd player aside. Liverpool is merely one example of how easy it is for a club to become has-beens. Will it be 20 years until MUFCs next title?
 
TruXta said:
On a more serious note. How deep does the rot go in Utd? Yes they've had some successes since Ferguson departed, but for a club of their financial clout they've done really very poorly when it comes to buying top talent and developing from within too - the odd player aside. Liverpool is merely one example of how easy it is for a club to become has-beens. Will it be 20 years until MUFCs next title?
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No, they'll win the championship before then
 
Actually the figures quoted are an understatement when you factor in the losses made on Jose’s transfers. For example it’s unlikely we will get back what we paid for Lindelof or Bailey if they were sold, let alone Fred (whoever the fuck he is). Probably looking at a big loss on Pogba and lukaku too if they leave. If we lost an average of say £10 million on each that’s another £50 million wasted. Then add in the loss of sponsorship. TV and prize money money when fail to qualify for the Champions League next season overall losses, including his payoff, could be heading up to three figures.
 
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Looks like it's Solksjaer.

Announcement on the website last night, quickly taken down, and congratulations from the Norwegian Prime Minister.

Hahahaha Hahahaha. That's the sort of shit we would do.
 
Fair play to Utd. Solksjaer is a club legend with managerial experience and no baggage.

Guess he might be made permanent if it goes well :hmm: if not the cost of sacking Moany and getting Poch is going to be a lot.
 
Promising :thumbs:
During his last managerial stint in English football, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer won three out of his 18 matches.

Not to put too fine a point upon it, his Cardiff reign was simply chaotic. Solskjaer continually tinkered with his team and didn't appear to know his best line-up. Only once did he stick with the same starting X1 from game to game," writes Paul Abbandonato.

During his time with Cardiff, Solskjaer provided little evidence to suggest he was up to the task of managing the biggest club in the world.
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Ole confirmed, with Mike Phelan's shorts singing United's swan song. Talk of Meulensteen, too. A late return to the post-Fergie continuity that was interrupted by Moyes. But changing the manager, even for a heart warming favourite, while retaining the ownership model is just window dressing. As long as the Glazers are in charge, this managed decline will continue. And the only thing that will change that is another billionaire buyout, with Saudi money currently the favourite. Making it better will just make it worse. Happy Christmas.
 
Patteran said:
Ole confirmed, with Mike Phelan's shorts singing United's swan song. Talk of Meulensteen, too. A late return to the post-Fergie continuity that was interrupted by Moyes. But changing the manager, even for a heart warming favourite, while retaining the ownership model is just window dressing. As long as the Glazers are in charge, this managed decline will continue. And the only thing that will change that is another billionaire buyout, with Saudi money currently the favourite. Making it better will just make it worse. Happy Christmas.
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Is Ole actually a Woodward pick? After the Liverpool game Fergie Gill and Woodward were reported deep in discussions. It make you wonder if that is where Ole's name cropped as Woodward had probably never heard of him. Moyes first big error was ditching all the Utd coaching staff including Phelan with like for like replacements from Everton. So Phelan's appointment is attempting to rectify mistakes made five years ago. The other mistake made five years ago was putting Woodward in charge. He is now on his fourth management appointment. With a fifth due in the summer. As much as anything else he needs to step back to doing what he does best - selling socks or whatever it is the Glazers love him for - with a proper football man to conduct the shaping of the football side. Overall there needs to be a return to an understandable footballing philosophy. Previously Ole had said that if given the opportunity he would 'build the side around Pogba'. As thing stand this would mean the center of his side being occupied by a hologram. Jose has gone. Woodward has to go. And unless there is a return to a - team first approach - (as with France in World Cup) Pogba too. That is what 'reset' really means.
 
Joe Reilly said:
Is Ole actually a Woodward pick? After the Liverpool game Fergie Gill and Woodward were reported deep in discussions. It make you wonder if that is where Ole's name cropped as Woodward had probably never heard of him. Moyes first big error was ditching all the Utd coaching staff including Phelan with like for like replacements from Everton. So Phelan's appointment is attempting to rectify mistakes made five years ago. The other mistake made five years ago was putting Woodward in charge. He is now on his fourth management appointment. With a fifth due in the summer. As much as anything else he needs to step back to doing what he does best - selling socks or whatever it is the Glazers love him for - with a proper football man to conduct the shaping of the football side. Overall there needs to be a return to an understandable footballing philosophy. Previously Ole had said that if given the opportunity he would 'build the side around Pogba'. As thing stand this would mean the center of his side being occupied by a hologram. Jose has gone. Woodward has to go. And unless there is a return to a - team first approach - (as with France in World Cup) Pogba too. That is what 'reset' really means.
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That's a good point about Fergie & Gill influencing the decision - Ole's too cute, too warm, too obscure a choice for Woodward. The Glazers love Ed because he brokered the deal. And as long as their dividends keep rolling in, I guess they'll keep him. But this level of failure threatens the valuation.

A Director of Football has been touted for a while - as mentioned above, Paul Mitchell seemed to be lined up, & has ties to Pochetinno. There was also talk of Van de Saar in that role. United have fallen behind on all levels - I might have posted this before, it's a couple of years old now, but still relevant - Andy Mitten talking about the difference in youth policies between United & City. It's all down to investment - or lack of. United's pips are squeaking.

Still, it's always nice to see Ole back. Even if it does make me feel old - first time in my life a United manager has been younger than me.

Ole Solskjaer red card - video
 
Patteran said:
That's a good point about Fergie & Gill influencing the decision - Ole's too cute, too warm, too obscure a choice for Woodward. The Glazers love Ed because he brokered the deal. And as long as their dividends keep rolling in, I guess they'll keep him. But this level of failure threatens the valuation.

A Director of Football has been touted for a while - as mentioned above, Paul Mitchell seemed to be lined up, & has ties to Pochetinno. There was also talk of Van de Saar in that role. United have fallen behind on all levels - I might have posted this before, it's a couple of years old now, but still relevant - Andy Mitten talking about the difference in youth policies between United & City. It's all down to investment - or lack of. United's pips are squeaking.

Still, it's always nice to see Ole back. Even if it does make me feel old - first time in my life a United manager has been younger than me.

Ole Solskjaer red card - video
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The return of Phelan also points in the same direction, can't imagine Woodward coming up with him either. As for the director of football it would be better if he was picked on his own merits rather than because of any links to Ole's possible successor. Pochetinno is not a given after all. Utd need to go back to the core philosophy. And so a heavyweight in his own right, ideally ex-United, who has an instinctive understanding of what is required is the priority.
 
Joe Reilly said:
The return of Phelan also points in the same direction, can't imagine Woodward coming up with him either. As for the director of football it would be better if he was picked on his own merits rather than because of any links to Ole's possible successor. Pochetinno is not a given after all. Utd need to go back to the core philosophy. And so a heavyweight in his own right, ideally ex-United, who has an instinctive understanding of what is required is the priority.
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there is no plan at united. i fully expect another contender to arrive who departs with his tail between his legs and a massive payoff in his account.
 
Can't help thinking that things would look a whole lot better at the moment if they'd kept Van Gaal.

Going for the second biggest name in management just because City had the first is as incredibly short-sighted as signing players just to stop City getting them-and then either not using them or fucking them up.
 
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Can't help thinking that things would look a whole lot better at the moment if they'd kept Van Gaal.

Going for the second biggest name in management just because City had the first is as incredibly short-sighted as signing players just to stop City getting them-and then either not using them or fucking them up.
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i am very happy with the man utd board, and with the caretaker manager they have selected
 
Even as a united fan I'm enjoying the lolz over this. Loathsome distant owners, hopeless chief exec, what could possibly go wrong type stuff. Same time, hope it goes well for Solskjaer and he just manages to get a bit of feelgood and swagger back, a bit of positivity at least. LVG and Mourhino, in their different ways were egotistical twats and poor old moyes wasn't exactly Mr Fun. Be just nice to have someone in charge who isn't a cunt.
 
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