Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins

[critical1]

Are you two the same person?

I believe we are united in our opposition to these closures if your talking about concerned1 as with any u75 member. Anyone fighting these road closures I salute them...

Are you and teuchter the same person?

 

[snowy_again]

It is a fact that Teuchter and I have never been in the same room together.

 

[irf520]

What happened to "scaredy-nimby" and "cuddly toy sheep"?

 

[teuchter]

It is a fact that Teuchter and I have never been in the same room together.

To the best of our knowledge

 

[prunus]

Is it too much to ask What date was it proposed on? as it appears Lambeth and you don't want us to know the FACTS you presented?
All traces of dates removed, No original document? bit strange eh!

I don't expect the original will ever be found.. Evidence NOT.

I have a copy here, in my download cache. It's too large to attach (1Mb max). Will you please stop with the paranoia conspiracy theories now?

E2a: I downloaded it on the 31/10/14; file creation date from pdf properties 19/09/14, if that helps.

 

[critical1]

I have a copy here, in my download cache. It's too large to attach (1Mb max). Will you please stop with the paranoia conspiracy theories now?

E2a: I downloaded it on the 31/10/14; file creation date from pdf properties 19/09/14, if that helps.

Paranoia... OK please share with us all via Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files 5gb limit.

So we can STOP Paranoia together...

 

[prunus]

Paranoia... OK please share with us all via Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files 5gb limit.

So we can STOP Paranoia together...

Sure, good idea; here you go:

http://www.filedropper.com/ljconsultationvisualisations

 

[bimble]

I like how one of them is looking in the opposite direction, or posing for the camera.

 

[critical1]

Sure, good idea; here you go:

http://www.filedropper.com/ljconsultationvisualisations

Thank you prunus... on inspection there is no title, no author or subject, the document has not been security protected as is should be, standard with all Lambeth pdfs, the dates do seem to be in that period, but easily edited and changed via system settings.

The layout is remarkably the same as teutchers reconstruction of a corrupt google cache image? an online document no one is able to view or make sense of? Link teutcher gave click here

teutcher has some seriouse SKILLZ to get it so right all the way down to the sentence structure.
Make of it what you will...

 

[prunus]

Thank you prunus... on inspection there is no title, no author or subject, the document has not been security protected as is should be, standard with all Lambeth pdfs, the dates do seem to be in that period, but easily edited and changed via system settings.

The layout is remarkably the same as teutchers reconstruction of a corrupt google cache image? an online document no one is able to view or make sense of? Link teutcher gave click here

teutcher has some seriouse SKILLZ to get it so right all the way down to the sentence structure.
Make of it what you will...

View attachment 79120

What on earth are you on about?

Are you accusing me of having fabricated that document, or of having altered the dates in it?

 

[teuchter]

 

[critical1]

It is as it is...

Sure, good idea; here you go:

http://www.filedropper.com/ljconsultationvisualisations

Thank you prunus... on inspection there is no title, no author or subject, the document has not been security protected as is should be, standard with all Lambeth pdfs, the dates do seem to be in that period, but easily edited and changed via system settings.

The layout is remarkably the same as teutchers reconstruction of a corrupt google cache image? an online document no one is able to view or make sense of? Link teutcher gave click here

teutcher has some seriouse SKILLZ to get it so right all the way down to the sentence structure.
Make of it what you will...

 

[bimble]

So at the end of this consultation and piloting period, three questions should be asked about these road closures: a) what would you keep (about the road closures)?; what would you lose/remove?; what would you keep but change?

I'd keep at the very least Padfield Road and Gordon Grove closures.

Anyone else?

If I were the boss of things I'd like to see what happens if the roads are re-opened , the 20mph were strictly imposed and a big zebra crossing plus wider pavements were created instead on Loughborough Rd.

 

[prunus]

The layout is remarkably the same as teutchers reconstruction of a corrupt google cache image? an online document no one is able to view or make sense of? Link teutcher gave click here

teutcher has some seriouse SKILLZ to get it so right all the way down to the sentence structure.
Make of it what you will...

I make of that that the link teuchter supplied was to a Google cache of a pdf. The way they work is that Google uses a pdf to html converter to preserve the text and layout and discards the images, both things to reduce storage space.

You seem to be implying some sort of conspiracy between teuchter and me and who knows who else, which conspiracy I can assure you doesn't exist. You don't appear to understand how anything actually works. You are filling the thread with irrelevancies. This is an important topic of debate that affects a lot of people and doesn't deserve to be dragged down to the level you are operating at. Please stop it.

 

[teuchter]

Anyone can view the google cache file. Open the link in a browser, zoom out a bit, and scroll down. That's all I did to make the screenshot.

It's missing the images and the original typeface has been replaced with a default one, for the reasons prunus states.

 

[critical1]

Dig your own hole....

 

[CH1]

Which Mass is that?
I assumed it would be Bach Mass in B minor - since authentic space films do use Bach viz:

But this is not it. What is it. I think we should be told.

 

[SpamMisery]

 

[teuchter]

Whatever it is, I expect the authorities will prevent us from finding out.

 

[critical1]

Whatever it is, I expect the authorities will prevent us from finding out.

Why would they? are they not transparent and open?

 

[bimble]

 

[bimble]

First meeting of Vassall and Coldharbour Forum | Vassall and Coldharbour

 

[AlexH]

Kate Hoey MP speaking sense! Teuchter better look away now. MP | South London Press

 

[AlexH]

Which Mass is that?
I assumed it would be Bach Mass in B minor - since authentic space films do use Bach viz:

But this is not it. What is it. I think we should be told.

It's Mozart's requiem

 

[CH1]

It's Mozart's requiem

Thanks. The D minor key is suitably ominous!

 

[critical1]

http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk



Gridlock AGAIN on Denmark Road - too narrow to take the extra traffic. Lambeth, we warned you this would happen.

 

[teuchter]

Kate Hoey MP speaking sense! Teuchter better look away now. MP | South London Press

She's going on about the chaos and paralysed traffic that may now be clearing. And asking for everything to be scrapped before we have the chance to find out if the thing she's complaining about is really a problem or not.

 

[bimble]

Not my intention to re-start the dissection of yesterday's document but.. this bit in Kate Hoey's article is pretty much exactly how I've seen the scheme so far (as the result of a small group pf people pushing their idea of how to improve LJ, related to the LJ Plan etc.

If the road closures had been explained from the start as a part of a big picture agenda that is not much to do with Loughborough Junction local issues and more to do with reducing car use in London that would have helped me a lot; maybe I'd have been able to see the ridiculously flawed consultation as just a gesture made by the council before implementing this bit of their wider traffic reduction strategy instead of attaching so much importance to it, or seeing it as an example of how one pressure group seems to dominate discussion of the future of my little patch.

 

[CH1]

In line the the new extraterrestrial paranoia now becoming fashionable on this thread, I am forced to reveal a surprising communication from beyond......

A former Lambeth councillor rang me yesterday having looked LJAG up using some company information service. He had discovered I was formerly a director of LJAG and wanted information. Information about who earth various other directors were, what LJAG was, why the last AGM apparently had only 5 people in attendance and on and on.

The nub of the matter was the guy had a number of friends whose commute into London had now become impossible and he moreover had been late for a Bartok concert at the Royal Festival Hall.

Apparently the more elevated types round Brockwell Park (who I understand include judges, lords, doctors etc) don't take kindly to LJAG disrupting their schedules. They jumped to the conclusion that LJAG are in fact trouble-making PLEBS.

I tried to put the guy right, and even asked him whether he had actually driven down here since Sunday, when he went into a rant about never mind that, now people have to drive through Brixton or Camberwell which is absolutely impossible hell and takes hours.

I find it ironic I am put in the position of defending Ljag AND also LETRA etc by alien outisde forces.
Herne Hill alien on the line!

 

[CH1]

Labour are rowing back on road management in Streatham St Leonards.-extract from Labour blog below

"4 Nov 2015 — I attended a meeting this morning with Sustrans staff, traffic and highways engineers and community engagement staff and my fellow councillor, Cllr Jaffer. We looked at feedback and suggestions received by us to date and we looked at and discussed a number of other options in addition to the original one.
The headline news is that we will not now be implementing the trial now until March 2016 at the earliest. This will give us an opportunity to present alternative options and to hold further discussions with local residents and other stakeholders as requested.
We do plan to continue with the Quietway route along Estreham Road but obviously in not as safe an environment as we hoped for for the time being."

As this is split ward with one Green councillor I wonder what he will do? Official Green policy would suggest he would be calling for immediate implementation. Could this be one place at least where party policy is deflected by local opinion?