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Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins

I'm a Myatts Fields resident & I look forward to the time when they introduce a proper Dutch scheme to the whole of the Loughborough rd area - All residential streets access only to cars, with separated bike lanes on A roads. This current scheme is an improvement, but only a small step in the right direction.
 
Well there was one on the 26th September and a Pop Park were there to consult people although once again barely anyone had been informed of it. Wonder what the results of that consultation was?
This was the event

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I'm a Myatts Fields resident & I look forward to the time when they introduce a proper Dutch scheme to the whole of the Loughborough rd area - All residential streets access only to cars, with separated bike lanes on A roads. This current scheme is an improvement, but only a small step in the right direction.
"All residential streets access only to cars" so no deliveries, tradesmen, dust carts, recycling vehicles and all the rest? Just cars?
 
It means that cars can only use the residential streets to gain access to the addresses on those streets. Same for other vehicles.
 
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Very interesting. I know that article a while back, the one about how most London cyclists are white affluentish and male, was dismissed because based on a very limited study but it's easy to see why a lot of the people pictured in that demo are not going to feel that the pro- cycling changes are of benefit to them.
 
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I went to the network rail thing at brixton rec and asked about how the plans for the LJ arches are coming along.
The man said couple of interesting things (spontaneously, I mean these were his responses to the whole subject of LJ) . Said firstly that they (NR) are aware of a need to ensure that their consultation does not rely too heavily on LJAG. Second thing he said was that there was 'a raid' on the arches in Rathgar & Belinda sometime early this year which resulted in 17 arches being found to contain either drugs or guns or both. I have no clue about this, just repeating what he said.

I remember wandering through Rathgar Rd one Sunday evening over the summer. Some guys were loading or unloading large wooden crates. I was curious as they looked like the kind of boxes used to ship artworks. I received a very menacing stare from one guy that I felt was more than a bit threatening. I've also been mistaken for a policeman. Someone once muttered 'pigs' as I walked down Loughborough Rd with a friend.
 
I've also been mistaken for a policeman. Someone once muttered 'pigs' as I walked down Loughborough Rd with a friend.
That must be pretty grim. Sometimes I forget that being a girl can make the world a less aggressive & threatening place. I'm still surprised about this massive crack and guns raid story though, and that nobody seems to have heard a thing about it.
 
That must be pretty grim. Sometimes I forget that being a girl can make the world a less aggressive & threatening place. I'm still surprised about this massive crack and guns raid story though, and that nobody seems to have heard a thing about it.
I have also found that age has a similar mellowing effect.
 
It means that cars can only use the residential streets to gain access to the addresses on those streets. Same for other vehicles.
I'm curious about how that works, I mean how do you implement a thing like that? Is it by making all residential streets into dead ends or by some sort of iris recognition / bar code system?
 
Someone once muttered 'pigs' as I walked down Loughborough Rd with a friend.
Then there used to be the tradition of calling out "Batty boy" if the friends walking down the street were of the male sex but black and white.
I'm not quite sure why, but some of the very rough Jamaican guys seem to have Gaydar which would leave Peter Tatchell standing.
 
Then there used to be the tradition of calling out "Batty boy" if the friends walking down the street were of the male sex but black and white.
I'm not quite sure why, but some of the very rough Jamaican guys seem to have Gaydar which would leave Peter Tatchell standing.
Blimey. And my rap song about big shiny cars was off message? Maybe you just want a bit more sympathy re how difficult it must be to make your way in the world these days as an oppressed white male person. :)
 
I'm curious about how that works, I mean how do you implement a thing like that? Is it by making all residential streets into dead ends or by some sort of iris recognition / bar code system?

By making them all either dead ends or such that the only place you can reach is back where you came from.
Usually done by strategically bollarding roads, leaving gaps for bikes to get through.
Of course that also makes emergency service access difficult, so sometimes they put in a gate to which the emergency services have a key. Still delays them though.
 
I went to the network rail thing at brixton rec and asked about how the plans for the LJ arches are coming along.
The man said couple of interesting things (spontaneously, I mean these were his responses to the whole subject of LJ) . Said firstly that they (NR) are aware of a need to ensure that their consultation does not rely too heavily on LJAG. Second thing he said was that there was 'a raid' on the arches in Rathgar & Belinda sometime early this year which resulted in 17 arches being found to contain either drugs or guns or both. I have no clue about this, just repeating what he said.

Yep and no charges being made or court cases being held... I went also to the NR thing today, I was greeted by 3 yes 3 police and one private security man. Looks like NR were expecting a riotous consultation...
 
By making them all either dead ends or such that the only place you can reach is back where you came from.
Usually done by strategically bollarding roads, leaving gaps for bikes to get through.
Of course that also makes emergency service access difficult, so sometimes they put in a gate to which the emergency services have a key. Still delays them though.
That sounds a lot like what's happening here outside my window. I mean those orange road blocks were taken away eventually (the ones the emergency services were supposed to drag out of their way before continuing to the emergency) but given that the signage is supposed to be temporary they could well be intending to replace with bollards, or giant plant pots. Access only is what it is here now (Gordon Grove).
 
Blimey. And my rap song about big shiny cars was off message? Maybe you just want a bit more sympathy re how difficult it must be to make your way in the world these days as an oppressed white male person. :)
Not really - it used to add to the danger and the satisfaction of "scoring" if you know what I mean.
I wouldn't go as far as the guy in Little Shop of Horrors though (Steve Martin version).Dentists are definitely out for me.
 
That sounds a lot like what's happening here outside my window. I mean those orange road blocks were taken away eventually (the ones the emergency services were supposed to drag out of their way before continuing to the emergency) but given that the signage is supposed to be temporary they could well be intending to replace with bollards, or giant plant pots. Access only is what it is here now (Gordon Grove).

Yes, precisely. If you look at what they've done, all the roads from Flaxman Rd to Kenbury St are now only reachable from CHL and the only way out from any of them is via CHL.
 
Yep and no charges being made or court cases being held... I went also to the NR thing today, I was greeted by 3 yes 3 police and one private security man. Looks like NR were expecting a riotous consultation...
I was sorry to have missed all that. I went to the Libraries march, and had a wrong idea that the Network Rail thing finished at 4 pm - but it evidently actually finished at 2. I met a Network Rail and uniformed security guy and they dis agreed with how many people had attended when I asked.
The security guy said, not many - about 30 and there were some demonstrators. The other one who was Asian corrected him saying they had had 70.

Maybe 70 over 2 days? Or what do you think?

I would have loved to see the demo - just goes to show unless you have your finger on the pulse in Brixton time will pass you by.
 
Yes, precisely. If you look at what they've done, all the roads from Flaxman Rd to Kenbury St are now only reachable from CHL and the only way out from any of them is via CHL.
I can see how that (access only) might be really appealing as an idea, on a leafy street full of children playing hopscotch and all but what I see here instead is loads of people trying to figure out how to get to and from an important industrial site.
 
I can see how that (access only) might be really appealing as an idea, on a leafy street full of children playing hopscotch and all but what I see here instead is loads of people trying to figure out how to get to and from an important industrial site.

Yes. Now think how much further along narrow residential roads the lorries have to go.
Also, if Coldharbour Lane is blocked for any reason, no-one is getting in or out of that area.
 
I can see how that (access only) might be really appealing as an idea, on a leafy street full of children playing hopscotch and all but what I see here instead is loads of people trying to figure out how to get to and from an important industrial site.
Talking of which has there been any contact regarding the industrial estate on Lilford Road and the other larger one on Paulet Road. Are they affected do you think?
 
Yes. Now think how much further along narrow residential roads the lorries have to go.Also, if Coldharbour Lane is blocked for any reason, no-one is getting in or out of that area.

I think Loughborough Junction is a total anomaly for central London.
We've got victorian houses (now on the market for a million quid) right up next to important industrial areas & car repair workshops, scrap metal dealers and welders, manufacturing businesses and woodworkers and things like this.
I love that about where I live.

Seems to me that this fact, the uniqueness of the place (obviously connected with the railway arches) was not taken into account at all one bit when this street closure idea was introduced.
 
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Yes. Now think how much further along narrow residential roads the lorries have to go.
Also, if Coldharbour Lane is blocked for any reason, no-one is getting in or out of that area.
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