London Student protests - Wed 8th Dec+ Thurs 9th

[DotCommunist]

 

[Brainaddict]

I've been lurking about reading a few threads here though i've only just decided to join.
I'd like to voice respect and solidarity with the students/protesters who've took part.

Vive La Revolution!

Welcome to the boards Now, please define the term revolution and how you expect it to come about

 

[detective-boy]

Now, please define the term revolution ...

Can I have a go?

Is it: "Going round in a circle and getting nowhere" ?

 

[audiotech]

Oh fuck off you supercillious prick ...

Sugar cube?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Oh fuck off you supercillious prick ...

did you have to put that in spellcheck, swearcheck or both?

 

[detective-boy]

... swearcheck ...

Now there's an idea ...

* Wanders off to find App developer ... *

 

[Pickman's model]

So he wasn't arrested for "stroking a police horse" then.

Why did you lie?

(And I suggest you go and read up on the difference between arrest and charge too ... )

oh dear you're not still accusing other people of mendacity are you? especially when you're so often guilty of it yourself...

 

[The Black Hand]

I wonder what would happen if everyone started creating protest events on facebook left, right and centre, with all the lists of people invited, attending etc... hidden from view?

How will they manage to cope with 20 or more protests which may or may not even happen, when their main intelligence seems to come from facebook?

Quite, it would be difficult and perhaps impossible for them...

 

[gawkrodger]

I see another demo has been announced for the last Saturday of January, so all the non-studies can get involved as well

 

[OneStrike]

Sensible to arrange it at the weekend, an early enough announcement for non-london folk to arrange cheaper train deals as well.

 

[butchersapron]

Can anyone throw any light on this? The lib-dems made and are still making a big thing about the effect of the rise in tuition fees being ameliorated by special fund for the poorest. Labour are now claiming that this actually represents a cut from £360 million to £150 million.

In the run up to the vote on trebling university tuition fees Clegg attempted to assure Lib Dem MPs by unveiling a £150m National Scholarship Programme aimed at poorer pupils. But the Browne review, used by the coalition as the basis for increasing tuition fees, said £360m was being spent in the current financial year by the Higher Education Funding Council for England (HEFCE).

 

[shaman75]

The new head of public order policing in London has promised a "robust" response if there are more violent protests in 2011.

In her first TV interview Assistant Commissioner Lynne Owens, has told the BBC's Home Affairs Correspondent Andy Tighe that violence on the streets of the capital would never be tolerated.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/london/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9327000/9327628.stm

 

[TopCat]

They might not have to tolerate it, but they will have to eat it up as they regularly dish it out.

 

[Pickman's model]

I see another demo has been announced for the last Saturday of January, so all the non-studies can get involved as well

yeh except for people who work on saturdays of course, which given the number of students with part time jobs is not going to be an insignificant number

 

[nino_savatte]

There was some woman from UNISON on BBC Breakfast (the London news slot) who was talking about how 'violence' was bad and it puts people from bringing kids to demos. She also said that "peaceful demonstrations" work. Really? How so? How many peaceful demos have actually resulted in the government of the day changing its mind. I can't think of any and that's a sad indictment on the efficacy of peaceful protest.

 

[butchersapron]

The Robbins Report 1963 - (basically set the ground for the first wave of university expansion to the working class etc):

The search for truth is an essential function of the institutions of higher education’and the process of education is itself most vital when it partakes in the nature of discovery.

The Browne Report 2010:

Higher education matters because it… helps produce economic growth, which in turn contributes to national prosperity.’

(From Kenan Malik's essay what is education for?)

 

[The Black Hand]

The Robbins Report 1963 - (basically set the ground for the first wave of university expansion to the working class etc):

The Browne Report 2010:Higher education matters because it… helps produce economic growth, which in turn contributes to national prosperity.’

(From Kenan Malik's essay what is education for?)

Puts it very well. This is the end of the liberal education dream (which never was anything to do with the lib dems).

 

[AKA pseudonym]

ouch.. Willard just got over 2 yrs for the Fire extinguisher incident......

 

[elbows]

32 months sentence according to Guardian news ticker.

 

[DotCommunist]

year n a half served maybe less with a tag .

 

[AKA pseudonym]

aye 2 yrs 8 months (I couldnt work out what 32months was )
bbc
good luck to the lad...

 

[ExtraRefined]

ouch.. Willard just got over 2 yrs for the Fire extinguisher incident......

... and nothing of value was lost

 

[Flanflinger]

... and nothing of value was lost

Over the coming months the silly little twat will learn the true value of liberty.

 

[winjer]

While you won't even get that far.

 

[Ungrateful]

... and nothing of value was lost

Over the coming months the silly little twat will learn the true value of liberty.

So some untrained, excitable teenager in the excitement of an occupation does something reprehensible but which injures no one. He comes forwards, is prosecuted and is given 32 months in prison. Meanwhile a highly trained and experienced police officer kills someone. in view of the camera The perpetrator does not step forward, his colleagues systematically lie about the incident, and then there is no prosecution and there is no punishment. Hmmm, the British legal system....

 

[butchersapron]

NUS exec voted not to support the student and EMA protests at the end of jan earlier this week.

 

[WWWeed]

NUS exec voted not to support the student and EMA protests at the end of jan earlier this week.

its not surprising but it does kinda make you wonder the current purpose of the NUS is?!?

 

[butchersapron]

To produce future MPs and careers.

 

[DotCommunist]

and to facilitate the opening of a fucking greggs on campus grounds. Oh and hiring unfunny comedians for shit freshers parties.

 

[grit]

So some untrained, excitable teenager

Whatever about the injustices surrounding this case, I dont think the above is a excuse.