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London Bridge rail redevelopment thunders on

Crispy said:
And, as I said over there, that brickwork is going to look lovely after a good clean :)
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Yet another sandblasting twattery - fucking awful
Let us see what history has deposited
Patina, Patina, Patina, meaning NOT a fucking Yankee DISNEY twat pastiche
 
Network Rail took back control of the nightclub Cable today in rather dramatic fashion, cutting there way in

https://www.facebook.com/cableofficial?group_id=0

Dear World,

It is with a huge amount of sadness that we announce Cable has closed with immediate effect.

We have been forced to close following two years of ongoing legal battles with Network Rail, who took possession of the venue this morning with an entry order, putting us out of business and leaving our 70 staff without jobs. This is due to them allegedly requiring the space back for the redevelopment of London Bridge station. It is an utterly devastating blow to what is a much loved, hugely successful, well respected music venue and media business.

This is not only a huge loss to the loyal fans and staff of Cable, but to London's clubbing community as a whole. With enormous pride, we delivered the very best talent in an environment that upheld the history of the early SE1 rave scene and supported as many musical styles as possible.

We are obviously devastated and still in shock by the news and know there will be questions. As you can appreciate, there is much work to be done and many arrangements to be made behind the scenes. A full press release will follow.

If you are presently a ticket holder for an event that was scheduled to take place at Cable, please do not worry - further information will follow in due course.

Our sincerest thanks,

The Cable Team x

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We have closed with immediate effect: official statement

More info: http://bit.ly/wehaveclosed
— at Cable Club.
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Don't know the background to it to comment either way on the legalities of this, but shame to see yet another venue gone.
 
Does anyone know what is happening to the "shed"? It was suggested that it was listed and had to be rebuilt somewhere else (possibly Crystal Palace). Didnt look like a partiuclarly careful job the way they cut up the supporting pillars and generally knocked the brickwork down
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The brickwork is gone for good. The shed is in storage, awaiting a buyer/site. Various heritage railways have expressed an interest. It's the wrong size for crystal place, I checked.
 
RedDragon said:
Here's a video of the sad event.
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Oh boo-fucking-hoo. They've known about it for years and every other business has already been shut there. If they were dismayed by anything, they've got to be some of the biggest idiots going.
 
Chz said:
Oh boo-fucking-hoo. They've known about it for years and every other business has already been shut there. If they were dismayed by anything, they've got to be some of the biggest idiots going.
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I've not been to Cable and I sympathise with them having to close in that way but I would be interested to know what was in their lease. I wouldn't have thought Railtrack could have obtained a warrant and taken possession that way unless they had a right to do so?
 
Chz said:
Oh boo-fucking-hoo. They've known about it for years and every other business has already been shut there. If they were dismayed by anything, they've got to be some of the biggest idiots going.
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did you watch the video? They say they were told they wouldnt be affected - cable only opened a few years ago, by which time the plans wouldve been well established. When Network Rail bods are asked about that on camera they refuse to answer.
No idea what happened but it does sound like Network Rail went back on their word and then forced a closure on them late in the day. Its not unreasonable to think that the management wouldnt have put all that financial investment in if they knew it was just for a limited time...maybe they would, either way it sounds like they were fucked about.
 
blossie33 said:
I've not been to Cable and I sympathise with them having to close in that way but I would be interested to know what was in their lease. I wouldn't have thought Railtrack could have obtained a warrant and taken possession that way unless they had a right to do so?
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i dont know but when a big project like the olympics or whatnot is happening things seem to happen at different speeds it seems to me
 
ska invita said:
did you watch the video? They say they were told they wouldnt be affected - cable only opened a few years ago, by which time the plans wouldve been well established. When Network Rail bods are asked about that on camera they refuse to answer.
No idea what happened but it does sound like Network Rail went back on their word and then forced a closure on them late in the day. Its not unreasonable to think that the management wouldnt have put all that financial investment in if they knew it was just for a limited time...maybe they would, either way it sounds like they were fucked about.
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I did, and while whoever told them they wouldn't be affected (a single person responsible, I'll bet) has a lot to answer for, the fact is that any cursory reading of the plans shows that any business under the arches had a very high likelihood of being asked to get out. If they had a leg to stand on, the lawyers would be all over it. Every other business that's been moved out had warning well in excess of statutory requirements.

It's difficult to tell if they're idiots or just trying to get some media coverage for their new location sure to open in the next month.
 
they're a fair way from the station tbh...which makes me think it was a last minute space grab for unforseen needs
...and i do share your scepticism a bit - a successful club like this is a gold mine and no club lasts for ever anyway, and lots of owners are rich types anyway purely in it for even more money...but who knows for sure what the deal is here.
 
My rehearsal studio is just off Bermondsey street (towards the Borough end), and I've seen some sights walking past Cable from LB station. My favorite, was a gentleman who had obviously over indulged the K.

I half felt like I should direct him to a safe place but he may of thought I was a dragon.
 
DJWrongspeed said:
This makes for fascinating reading. I don't know if the level of trouble is that unusual. Could there have been collusion between NR and Southwark Council ?
That video is annoying as Cable never explain why it led to such a dramatic possession order.
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yeah it does, doesn't it. tbh i think a lot of the locals complaints are due to the 24 hour license. most clubs are packed away by the time people get up and as long as their isn't much noise disturbance during the night, a lot of people are none the wiser.

having been to Sunday daytime clubs like Sunny Side Up back in the 90s, i can imagine it would wear a bit thin each Sunday if it was right on your doorstep and not very well managed - as it appeared it wasn't always.

i reckon the police stuff is fairly standard for anywhere open that amount of time with that many people going through the doors on drugs/drunk etc each weekend. might be wrong though of course!

and agree re: the video. it is hard to get a sense of what has led to this, the only clue really in that video is the well spoken bloke with the beard from Cable having a pop at the NR guys for not discussing things with him.
 
Reading the supporting docs on the licence review there were 51 articulate objections from folks around Bermondsey St, I wonder if it actually got it's licence renewed? Sounds fairly wild on sat/sunday am. With the station redevelopment at least that it is day time disruption for residents.
 
DJWrongspeed said:
Reading the supporting docs on the licence review there were 51 articulate objections from folks around Bermondsey St, I wonder if it actually got it's licence renewed? Sounds fairly wild on sat/sunday am. With the station redevelopment at least that it is day time disruption for residents.
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it was amended, think they took the daytime license away and imposed various other conditions.

it wasn't actually a renewal as such, but a hearing due to the complaints from residents and police.
 
The important aspect of this which nobody has mentioned yet is that the Cable Club premises were entered by Network Rail under the terms of a compulsory purchase order ("CPO"). This is made clear by the notices on the outside of the premises. The process for obtaining and enforcing a CPO are lengthy and where contested usually involve a public inquiry. It is likely that Cable will have known for a long time that this was coming. (In fact their own website refers to 2 years of legal battles). This is not a sudden move but one which was known about years ago. It also tends to explain why there have been recent problems with the venue. They knew they were on the way out so relaxed their management of their clientele in order to make as much money as they could before they were forced to close. Good riddance in my view.
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From a poster on the SE1 forum, another interpretation :p
 
DJWrongspeed said:
From a poster on the SE1 forum, another interpretation :p
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they are applying for a judicial review according to DJ Mag.

you kinda think they wouldn't waste the barristers fees unless they truly felt they had a chance. although that is as much about process leading to the outcome, rather than the actual outcome, if that makes sense.
 
I heard the other day from a bloke from Tfl speaking at an event that London Bridge would, at some point in the works, have to shut completely - dunno if he meant overground only or all of it, but that'll be a bit :eek: for a lot of people. He was talking about 'controlling demand' as they did by warning everyone off the tube during the Olympics, and saying that they had strategies in place to divert people from LB.
 
That doesn't sound right. They'll be closing the main line platforms and rebuilding them one by one, but on a rolling programme so there will only be a few out of action at a time. Lots more thameslink trains will go via Elephant & Castle instead, to make up for it.
 
Platforms 14, 15 and 16 will be closed from Sunday, according to tannoy announcements in the last few days.
 
The Network Rail offices just beyond the stops on 14/15/16 have already gone, that was quick.

I am looking forward to seeing whether London Bridge box continue their long tradition of routing trains into the wrong platform. Should be interesting.
 
Crispy said:
Part of the old station roof has found a new home
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That's good news. Big hoarding along platform 13 now, and all the trackwork into 14/15/16 removed. Not everything going so well though - the planned West Croydon to South Bermondsey service (which would normally run to London Bridge) on Monday had to be terminated short at Tulse Hill because half the crossover that was due to be installed to allow turnback wasn't.
 
I use london bridge sporadically - does this mean no trains for the time being between tulse hill and LB?
 
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