List Brady's -- please sign the pledge
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Great idea. Anybody any good at this sort of thing? Not much of an urban art guerilla meself.memespring said:
I'll be lookout. 
Ah well, back to the drawing board.
Btw it doesn't necessarily follow that your friend should be put out of a job if the building comes into community use.
Btw it doesn't necessarily follow that your friend should be put out of a job if the building comes into community use.
IntoStella said:Not much of an urban art guerilla meself.
Me neither. A poster would be good though. Alot of people pass by Bradys, if you can make them look up at the tower, and then down at the text number I think there will be a good response.
There's only 34 letters in TEXT 'PLEDGE BRADYS' To 60022 TO SAVE THIS BUILDING. 3 letters each on A4 at font size 600?
And then crash into the car in front.memespring said:
IntoStella said:
Hmm, nope in his case I think it would. Long story... he loved it when it was a pub himself, so I'm sure he would have mixed feeling himself if he knew of all this talk.
But anyway, his normal reaction to anybody he *catches* trying to get in or deface the place can be quite... extreme.
Some of the local crackheads have had the shock of their lives.I'm on a PC now and bloody hell, that site looks so different. It is unutterably rubbish on a Mac.
I will PM the editor to see if we can borrow one of his lovely Brady's pix for the page -- credited, of course.
Gabi -- don't you think the place might well continue to need a caretaker? And community use may well include a bar/pub, gigs, cabaret and all the other things Brady's was loved for. Well. Not ALL of them, maybe.
I will PM the editor to see if we can borrow one of his lovely Brady's pix for the page -- credited, of course.
Gabi -- don't you think the place might well continue to need a caretaker? And community use may well include a bar/pub, gigs, cabaret and all the other things Brady's was loved for. Well. Not ALL of them, maybe.
gabi said:Hmm, nope in his case I think it would. Long story... he loved it when it was a pub himself, so I'm sure he would have mixed feeling himself if he knew of all this talk.
But anyway, his normal reaction to anybody he *catches* trying to get in or deface the place can be quite... extreme.
I thought I'd seen someone in there - at least soemone is trying to look after it.
He's probaby got more chance of keeping some sort of job there as a community pub than as 'Living mk 2' or luxury apartments.
Pic now up. Thanks, editor. 
There is no option to caption pics so I have put 'Picture courtesy of urban75.com' in the comments section.
There is no option to caption pics so I have put 'Picture courtesy of urban75.com' in the comments section.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Just as well the thread title wasn't "take the pledge".
robotsimon
New Member
A potential problem with getting this builidng listed is that it may, in fact, make it harder to find an alternative use for it.
Once the building is listed, it will be largely (but not completely) protected from demolition if that is on the cards at the moment. However, anyone wishing to develop the building would then have the extra hurdles of listed building consent to jump over before they could do anything to it. Any work to the building would have to be done to the standards required by the listed building consent as would any future alterations. This can make things quite expensive and may put potential users off.
There are grants available for this sort of thing and English Heritage (the lead body in this field) is keen to see historic buildings reused but a building such as Brady's would be listed only at Grade II (the lowest grade) and funds are not so forthcoming for buildings in this category.
I would suggest speaking to the relevant conservation officer (if Lambeth still has such a thing) as well as the Victorian Society who are very helpful.
Once the building is listed, it will be largely (but not completely) protected from demolition if that is on the cards at the moment. However, anyone wishing to develop the building would then have the extra hurdles of listed building consent to jump over before they could do anything to it. Any work to the building would have to be done to the standards required by the listed building consent as would any future alterations. This can make things quite expensive and may put potential users off.
There are grants available for this sort of thing and English Heritage (the lead body in this field) is keen to see historic buildings reused but a building such as Brady's would be listed only at Grade II (the lowest grade) and funds are not so forthcoming for buildings in this category.
I would suggest speaking to the relevant conservation officer (if Lambeth still has such a thing) as well as the Victorian Society who are very helpful.
robotsimon
New Member
Just read my post back - I don't mean to sound negative. I think it's great to look after old buildings. Just that it may be a good idea to talk to some people who work with this sort of thing before submitting a listing application.
Cheeky.Donna Ferentes said:
Excellent idea.robotsimon said:
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Given that English Heritage ran an advertising campaign for their "Power of Place" consultation (back in 2000?) with Electric Avenue on the cover to promote their work regenerating conservation in edgy urban areas, they bloody well ought to be interested, given the lack of progress in taking any restoration projects forward in the area.
I'm sure there was talk back then about some EH money being available - although a lot of people were more obsessed by the Electric Avenue canopies.
I'm sure there was talk back then about some EH money being available - although a lot of people were more obsessed by the Electric Avenue canopies.
Given the ongoing crime situation, sadly, I think we'd be better off forgetting about those. The police will fight it tooth and nail and the canopies have probably rusted to nothing by now.lang rabbie said:
I have written to the relevant bod at the Victorian Society for advice about Brady's, so fingers crossed. Anyone wants to see what I said, PM me with your email address.
Lots of useful info at
http://www.victorian-society.org.uk/adv0.html
robotsimon
New Member
I wouldn't have thought a conservation officer would get involved in loft conversions (unless it's a conversion in an historically significant building) - that would probably be a planning officer. Although, as a lot of local authorities have seen fit to get rid of anyone involved with conserving the historic environment, they might well be the same person . . .
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
29 so far - top stuff!
I'm sure Magnus Mill's would sign - he was a Bradys regular.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Where's CLR James on that list?
(The one on the link, not the Brady's list, before it occurs to anybody to ask.)
(The one on the link, not the Brady's list, before it occurs to anybody to ask.)
Urban myths, red faces
Looking again at the editor's photos, I realise that the niggling doubt in the back of my mind was correct.
The tower is not five sided. It's six sided.
So many people told me it was five sided that I believed them.
This is quite embarassing as I told the Victorian Society it was five sided, and it says it on the pledge too.
That's it then. Let's call the whole thing off.
Kidding!
Looking again at the editor's photos, I realise that the niggling doubt in the back of my mind was correct.
The tower is not five sided. It's six sided.
So many people told me it was five sided that I believed them. This is quite embarassing as I told the Victorian Society it was five sided, and it says it on the pledge too.
That's it then. Let's call the whole thing off.
Kidding!
editor
hiraethified
Ahem! From my Brady's/Railway Hotel article:IntoStella said:The tower is not five sided. It's six sided.
And from the Brixton Society's website:
You mean you nicked it off the Brixton Society website?editor said:
No, point taken, I always thought it was six but people kept saying it was one of only three five sided towers in Europe and all this and I didn't check it.
Next I'm going to write to the Brixton Society and the council's conservation officer. Unless anyone has any objections, that is?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I was told that too...I suspect by the same old-school Brixtonite who told me Brady's was already listed and that the land by Lily Langtree's coach house was ancient woodland of many acres. No on both counts, having seen it.IntoStella said:No, point taken, I always thought it was six but people kept saying it was one of only three five sided towers in Europe and all this and I didn't check it.
OK. I've done it now so the ball is at least in their court.editor said:
Still embarrassing about the number of sides debacle, though.
