Libertarians

[8ball]

Yep, the term 'left-libertarian' has tended to be used by individuals rather than groups. I suppose, in some cases, the rationale was to distance themselves (and their work) from the perceived neagtive connotations of the 'A' word in order to attract a wider audience?

Definitely some truth in that, though not so much about attracting an audience so much as not immediately alienating people.

Agree with butchers about how the term libertarianism has been gifted to the right. To some extent I think that's deliberate.

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, the term 'left-libertarian' has tended to be used by individuals rather than groups. I suppose, in some cases, the rationale was to distance themselves (and their work) from the perceived neagtive connotations of the 'A' word in order to attract a wider audience?

In some cases that may well have been the motivation, in others that i'm more familiar with though it was to specifically identify with the continental libertarian communist tradition (through the plaform to Fontenis rather than the floppy liberal bollocks anarchism of much of post-war anarchism - see albert meltzer for example.

edit: and i'd say post-miners strike that usage was replaced by small c communist.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Fuck's sake, you CAN'T have a thread on these clowns without having this in it

 

[Steel Icarus]

How he says captililism - fucking hell, still cracks me up

 

[8ball]

Fuck's sake, you CAN'T have a thread on these clowns without having this in it

I can't make any sense of that whatsoever.

 

[sihhi]

How he says captililism - fucking hell, still cracks me up

Brushed himself up quite a bit now - apparently very eloquent

 

[chilango]

A lot less huggable in the latest pictures.

Shame.

Felixstowe Bungay you're now my No.1 Liberatarian Homeboy.

Nic you're still in with a shot if you stop intervening in your hairstyle and diet though...

 

[peterkro]

No, that's right, I'm sure. But tbf the increasing, stateside, tendancy to associate the term exclusively with "anarcho-capitalism", minarchism and various tones of extreme, neo-liberal, laissez-faire loonery does mean that our, (European?), use of the synonym for anarchism requires the use of an adjective like 'left' or 'communist'. Shame, an all that, but for 'global' understanding I suppose we just have to accept that's the way the ideological language has developed.

In general I like wikipedia but there has been a big failure on this and several other topics,while many people fought the UScentricism ultimately they lost and stupidity prevailed.May I recommend wikipedia.fr for a better understanding.

 

[nino_savatte]

He is currently reading Law at BPP Law School. As well as studding he puts into practice his social enterprise beliefs in helping some of the UK’s most vulnerable people by working with The Big Issue.
http://www.bowgroup.org/people/nic-conner

What's "studding"? Does he erect plasterboard walls or something?

 

[brogdale]

In general I like wikipedia but there has been a big failure on this and several other topics,while many people fought the UScentricism ultimately they lost and stupidity prevailed.May I recommend wikipedia.fr for a better understanding.

Yeah...erm...maybe? I'm not entirely sure what point you're making, though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You're right though they often share platforms with the most pro-big government types

Unsurprisingly, for most of these "Young Britons", their support for the military is strictly verbal. Actually serving would put the screaming willies up most of 'em, especially as "other ranks".

 

[ViolentPanda]

What's "studding"? Does he erect plasterboard walls or something?

He wanks into a bottle, on the premise that young libertarian women want to inseminate themselves with his superior seed.

He has 7 full fridges in his basement.

 

[DotCommunist]

What's "studding"? Does he erect plasterboard walls or something?

having sex with horses

 

[ViolentPanda]

This was student exuberance - the serious people like Adam Smith Institute knew it was dumb because there would be so few supporters.

The Adam Smith Institute held a party a few months later to celebrate the budget

Nice snap here - free marketer over women's bodies Peter Stringfellow alongside Adam Smith Institute executive Eamonn Butler.

Identi-cunts.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They remind me of Kevin the teenager character, "why do I have to pay tax, its so unfair"

There must be a better name for this than libertarianism.

Whiney-cuntism gets my vote.

 

[peterkro]

Yeah...erm...maybe? I'm not entirely sure what point you're making, though.

The point I was perhaps badly trying to make is the English language Wikipedia site has been hi-jacked by those UScentric people who use terms like Libertarian (meaning right wing nut jobs) and "anarcho-capitalists" terms which have completely different meanings in most of the world.This is why I recommended the French version which in general doesn't fall for the Washington/Hollywood bollocks.

 

[sihhi]

Posting to attack hyper-individualism and egotism - not to attack single people

Anyone remember this?

http://nymag.com/news/features/artifact/51814

Chinoy, Manila, Philippines
My individualism takes precedence at all costs, if not at all times.

lostpainting, Hagerstown, Maryland
Please note: If you’re overweight, I won’t date you.

I love intelligent, sassy girls, particularly those working in consulting or investment banking (but other fields are great too). Really, nothing is hotter than an accomplished girl in a suit, as long as she is willing to settle down and have my children. I want a girl who will support my ambitions against the naysayers in society

Zak, Long Island, New York
I am rational, integrated, and efficacious. ... I would love to find someone I can learn something from; someone who challenges me to think; someone I can feel like I’ve won, rather than lowered myself to.

Depressingly, the site is still there with 16,000 profiles with stuff like this

TBrinsko
Las Vegas, Nevada
In many ways, I am a combination of Rand's two iconic heroes. Like John Galt, I am on strike from a society which is not worthy of what I can produce and have been for going on seven years now. That said, I consider myself (my personality and motivation) more similar to Howard Roar...

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[DotCommunist]

isn't Galt also a rapist.

 

[Idris2002]

isn't Galt also a rapist.

Yes, yes he is.

What a rotten person Ayn Rand was.

 

[el-ahrairah]

" Like John Galt, I am on strike from a society which is not worthy of what I can produce and have been for going on seven years now. That said, I consider myself (my personality and motivation) more similar to Howard Roar"

 

[sihhi]

Yes, yes he is.

What a rotten person Ayn Rand was.

PD needs a flowchart for Libertarians in Britain.

Have you ever been in the lobby of a posh hotel?

Do you pay income tax?

Do you want to scrap the General Teaching Council?

Did you attend a grammar school and think to yourself it could have been improved by charging fees?

Who crashed RBS? Its owners' decisions OR Marxists in the Labour Party.

Do you have a holding company in Jersey or the Cayman Islands?

Have you ever canvassed for UKIP?

Have you ever met Kwasi Kwarteng?

Have you ever used a picture of Margaret Thatcher as a facebook profile?

Have you ever been an intern to a Euro MEP?

Have you ever done work experience for the IEA?

 

[J Ed]

Ron Swanson is the one libertarian I like

 

[brogdale]

The point I was perhaps badly trying to make is the English language Wikipedia site has been hi-jacked by those UScentric people who use terms like Libertarian (meaning right wing nut jobs) and "anarcho-capitalists" terms which have completely different meanings in most of the world.This is why I recommended the French version which in general doesn't fall for the Washington/Hollywood bollocks.

You may well be right there, but the 'right-wing' appropriation of the term in the US does go back a long way before Wiki was ever invented. IIRC the US party using that name started out in the 1970's, and led to the (cliched) observation that libertarians were anarchists with property/money.

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Casually Red]

These people win in education every single time.

the only good thing about looking at this picture is the knowlege these punters have a much statistically higher chance than me of being eaten by a lion/polar bear/tiger ,killed by tribesmen/pirates, dying in a lightaircraft/helicopter mishap, or by autoerotic asphyxiation .

And even if none of that ever happens to them one of them will still always be called Felix Bungay

 

[butchersapron]

...and stil have that weird shit hanging on his ear.

 

[Casually Red]

So, if including the G and O then GROGSKU IS MU HOMZOU.

thats probably what Trotsky sounded like after that icepick incident

 

[Casually Red]

...and stil have that weird shit hanging on his ear.

wtf is that thing..its like a cattle tag or something

 

[brogdale]

wtf is that thing..its like a cattle tag or something

He does have impressive ears, but I think that what we're seeing there is actually something shiny in the background. Maybe something to do with the gilt door furniture etc. that they have in these sort of venues?