Libertarians

[Casually Red]

 

[J Ed]

This was student exuberance - the serious people like Adam Smith Institute knew it was dumb because there would be so few supporters.

The Adam Smith Institute held a party a few months later to celebrate the budget

Nice snap here - free marketer over women's bodies Peter Stringfellow alongside Adam Smith Institute executive Eamonn Butler.

Stringfellow has suggested that he might stand against Clegg in the next election in Sheffield Hallam. Bizarre.

 

[Roadkill]

Well they are libertarians, were you expecting them to understand what they're talking about?

Good point.

This was student exuberance - the serious people like Adam Smith Institute knew it was dumb because there would be so few supporters.

Very Serious People, as Paul Krugman characterises such idiots. I do wonder how many people who mindlessly chant Adam Smith's name - most of the institute that bears his name included - have ever actually read anything by him, though. Well, aside from a few carefully selected passages from The Wealth of Nations.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Stringfellow has suggested that he might stand against Clegg in the next election in Sheffield Hallam. Bizarre.

Who would he stand for? The Tories?

 

[sihhi]

Them taking the piss out of themselves

 

[J Ed]

Who would he stand for? The Tories?

Independent I think

 

[SpineyNorman]

Them taking the piss out of themselves

That site is seriously

 

[sihhi]

Independent I think

UKIP were interested for a while



Westminster Conservative Council regulating parking in one of the most densely crowded business districts in Europe ... socialists.

 

[Casually Red]

These people win in education every single time.

 

[where to]

So what is the current relationship between ukip and these freaks? Are they on fringe, a distinct platform or embedded in powerful positions?

 

[where to]

Sociopath?

They remind me of Kevin the teenager character, "why do I have to pay tax, its so unfair"

There must be a better name for this than libertarianism.

 

[Casually Red]

Weird how all of these libertarians are white and male, it's almost as if they are interested in perpetuating their own privilege...

 

[Roadkill]

They remind me of Kevin the teenager character, "why do I have to pay tax, its so unfair"

There must be a better name for this than libertarianism.

Stupidity?

 

[Casually Red]

They remind me of Kevin the teenager character, "why do I have to pay tax, its so unfair"

There must be a better name for this than libertarianism.

selfishness

 

[xslavearcx]

i want one of those 'hayek is my homeboy' t-shirts

 

[Favelado]

i want one of those 'hayek is my homeboy' t-shirts

Also available in socialism.

 

[xslavearcx]

Also available in socialism.View attachment 31715

but that wouldn't be as ironic

 

[xslavearcx]

Just bought the damn t-shirt. stupid internet

 

[seventh bullet]

Also available in socialism.

The Cyrillic for G is the wrong way round. O is Church Slavonic rather than the Cyrillic for F being altered? The Y is actually U, what looks like a 3 is actually Z rather than Э (pronounced 'eh,' as opposed to the Russian E which is 'yeh'), and the B is just the soft sign rather than Б.

So, if including the G and O then GROGSKU IS MU HOMZOU.

 

[xslavearcx]

now thats a slogan!

 

[Idris2002]

Meanwhile on Facebook, my former colleague is now declaring that "mass public education is equal in its inequality". I feel a defriending coming on. . .

 

[fredfelt]

 

[nino_savatte]

We need a better name for these people than libertarians. Not something derogatory but an accurate term which reflects the purpose and agenda behind their politics. Libertarian sounds too nice.

I quite like LOLibertarians as a way of describing them.

 

[gentlegreen]

I have for some time described myself as a libertarian - though I'm somewhat restrained in my own life and I don't recognise myself in the stereotypes above.
Is this another word that now can't be used - especially cross-Atlantic - like "liberal" ?

 

[butchersapron]

I have for some time described myself as a libertarian - though I'm somewhat restrained in my own life and I don't recognise myself in the stereotypes above.
Is this another word that now can't be used - especially cross-Atlantic - like "liberal" ?

No, not at all, you are miles off. As the above posts should quite clearly indicate to you. Do you support/are a member of any of the extreme-right wing groups laughed at above?

 

[8ball]

I have for some time described myself as a libertarian - though I'm somewhat restrained in my own life and I don't recognise myself in the stereotypes above.
Is this another word that now can't be used - especially cross-Atlantic - like "liberal" ?

I was a libertarian before it was right-wing.

 

[brogdale]

No, not at all, you are miles off. As the above posts should quite clearly indicate to you. Do you support/are a member of any of the extreme-right wing groups laughed at above?

No, that's right, I'm sure. But tbf the increasing, stateside, tendancy to associate the term exclusively with "anarcho-capitalism", minarchism and various tones of extreme, neo-liberal, laissez-faire loonery does mean that our, (European?), use of the synonym for anarchism requires the use of an adjective like 'left' or 'communist'. Shame, an all that, but for 'global' understanding I suppose we just have to accept that's the way the ideological language has developed.

 

[Dogsauce]

Can you give this lot a kicking while you're at it? They look relatively harmless, but if you tangled with them I think the one furthest left would stab you while the one furthest right sat on you.

Surely they'd just 'Release the hounds!' to fend you off?

 

[butchersapron]

Thing is, there are really no left/anarchist groups here (or in the US) that either call themselves libertarian or use it in their self-description - the five man libertarian discussion group in the mid-80s was pretty much the last thing i can think of, and before that the Libertarian League in New York in the 60s. If we're not actively using it then this will happen...

 

[brogdale]

Thing is, there are really no left/anarchist groups here (or in the US) that either call themselves libertarian or use it in their self-description - the five man libertarian discussion group in the mid-80s was pretty much the last thing i can think of, and before that the Libertarian League in New York in the 60s. If we're not actively using it then this will happen...

Yep, the term 'left-libertarian' has tended to be used by individuals rather than groups. I suppose, in some cases, the rationale was to distance themselves (and their work) from the perceived neagtive connotations of the 'A' word in order to attract a wider audience?